Meh, my naked filter is easier to clean and I can fit taller cups under it. That's good enough for me
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
coffee in the nude
Collapse
X
-
coffee in the nude
This is the main factor that to me could make a difference. If you do a terrible job of grind/dose/tamp you'll know about it when using a naked PF. You might choose not to drink that coffee and start again. Using a standard PF hides all but the worst problems so it's not so much that a naked PF improves anything it's just a possible early indicator of how good a coffee might be and reduces the likelihood of drinking an average coffee. The only other semi-related factor is that unless you pull the basket out of your standard PF every time to clean everything a naked PF could be cleaner.Originally posted by allitnils View PostA shot pulled from a naked portafilter will taste, to my untrained palate (and I imagine to the majority of home users) exactly the same as the exact same shot pulled from a not naked portafilter.
the change in taste therefore is not on the tool you use, but on what minor alterations you make as shown by the naked pf, for it to work in your advantage.
Yes: the taste will be the same. And if you are pulling absolutely perfect shot after perfect shot, a naked portafilter will be purely a cosmetic addition.
however, in my case it revealed that my shots are channeling. Addressing these issues MIGHT make a difference in taste. Not the filter itself.
The other thing to consider is that there is usually a greater amount of metal in a standard PF. Most people would consider this a good thing, especially on a machine with good temp stability that is properly warmed up. That's why when I converted one of my PFs to be naked I removed as little material as possible. When it comes down to it I still think it's more of a training tool, or something that looks prettier or is easier to clean.
- Flag
Comment
-
Now we are really splitting hairs (bigtime !!) Or is it Nit-picking (again). But then I should have expected it.Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View PostNo- it does. Coffee oxidises and pulls at a different temp against the metal of the conventional p/f when compared to a naked- more exposure to oxygen..
- Flag
Comment
-
If you can't taste any difference, it's nothing to you anyway- so don't worry about it. Do whatever works for you.Originally posted by deegee View PostNow we are really splitting hairs (bigtime !!) Or is it Nit-picking (again). But then I should have expected it.
Hope your comment made you feel good.
- Flag
Comment
-
agree completely with this comment.Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View PostIf you can't taste any difference, it's nothing to you anyway- so don't worry about it. Do whatever works for you.
I'm guilty of many supersticious rituals in many aspects of life. Do they make a difference? Probably not, but I think they do. And at the end of the day, I'm starting each morning with a cup of coffee I enjoy.
Not because I have a naked portafilter or because I spent over $2000 on a machine, but because I like the taste of coffee.
And the extra 'quirks' that I perform, and the hairs that I might split.. well .. They add to the personal experience.
whether they contribute to the taste or not .. it's the journey of getting the coffee in the cup.. (although if the end result is improved, then all the power to you!)
- Flag
Comment
-
Have you tried a naked PF with an Energy Polarizer yet Chris?Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View PostNo- it does. Coffee oxidises and pulls at a different temp against the metal of the conventional p/f when compared to a naked- more exposure to oxygen.
Also- many use a triple with a naked- with the resultant influence on body...
- Flag
Comment
-
G'day Talk_CoffeeOriginally posted by Talk_Coffee View PostNo- it does. Coffee oxidises and pulls at a different temp against the metal of the conventional p/f when compared to a naked- more exposure to oxygen.
Also- many use a triple with a naked- with the resultant influence on body...
I have been using a naked P/F at home for years. As espresso our blind tasting revealed a noticeable difference (read improvement) in texture as well as taste. Adding milk - no difference in texture (not a surprise there). The taste was still better, although not as "hit you over the head" obvious.
I prefer to look at it from the other direction - can someone please explain how pushing your precious freshly extracting coffee through another process (i.e. sliding through the metal gaps of a "standard p/f") can possibly improve it? If it can't, then why do it?
Whether your reason explains it I do not know, however I can fully agree that it is better "in the cup" and AFAIAC that is all that matters.
To those who say that is only because you can see what the shot is doing - maybe, however even when we controlled for all other variables the naked still gave a better result unanimously during the blind tests.
Enjoy your cuppa - the rest is either striving for excellence or BS...
TampIt
- Flag
Comment

Comment