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I've just seen this post. What the heck was this about? Chis is right, hard water will mess your machine, and most filters don't deal with this. So eyes open when you choose your filter. Wow, a huge amount of ego here.
To be fair any opinion contrary to the norm gets shut down pretty hard on here
No, I don't agree with that sentiment...
For some reason, some people seem to believe that decades as a professional in the specialist coffee industry, doesn't afford one the ability to collect and retain significant knowledge in this specialised area, rather, it seems to make one a target.
A little bit of respect and acknowledgement of this would go a long way to avoiding this kind of carry-on in the first place. Sure, we all have our areas of specialised knowledge, training, qualifications and all the rest of it. Chris's knowledge and experience happens to encompass a far wider area of expertise than that of the coffee industry alone and I for one have appreciated his assistance in many instances over many, many years...
Not embarrassing at all, just people believing in what they believe to be true. But don't tell any body, I'm going for Chris because he is actually there seeing with his own two eyes what bad water does.
All, as the initiator of this thread I am comfortable that my original query was resolved by both responses 2 and 3. In the interest of all forum participants can we please not post any further comments via this thread. Thanks in advance.
I agree that you can attempt to put words in the mouth of someone else. FFS indeed.
Take a look outside. You may notice winter has arrived. Now argue with yourself or better still, get a life.
Not here, it's a beautiful sunny day. I've done my parental sporting duties this morning and now off to do some outdoor rock climbing so I do have a life.
Sorry dude. When someone has a go at me and accuses me of saying things I didn't say, I like most people take offence. I don't expect an apology anytime soon but that's ok, I'm a big boy, I won't loose any sleep over it.
So you agree that water filtration is a dodgy area, or at least you haven't disagreed and as they say silence is consensus. Finally, we have some common ground.
so you agree that water filtration is a dodgy area, or at least you haven't disagreed and as they say silence is consensus. Finally, we have some common ground.
To others- Yes, have your water tested so you can make the right choices.
FF. My post was to inform others that drinking water filters are often unsuitable for espresso machines in Australia. It's not about you and frankly, I couldn't give a hoot what filter you choose. Get over it.
Here's another Doulton for you.
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So you agree that water filtration is a dodgy area, or at least you haven't disagreed and as they say silence is consensus. Finally, we have some common ground.
True, this is a real debatable topic rather than Talk-Coffees searching for an argument where non exists. Is it better to get your own individual water tested which most people will only ever do once or to rely on the government body to test the source regularly. Any statistician will tell you one data point is worth sweet FA. Being a data based guy, I lean towards more data equalling more reliable though I can understand why people would still choose to measure their own water, be it only once.
Look I hear ya, don't get me wrong I'm a pragmatic kinda guy that likes numbers too so I fully understand that a larger collection of data is more attractive than a single source. But I work with fluids (admittedly it's a petroleum fuel rather than water) and I've seen the specs for our product change when it travels just a few meters. Water might be less volatile, but when it's traveling many km's through various kinds of pipes and valves it has ample opportunity to change along the way. I certainly wouldn't be making any assumptions and maybe getting both reports would give a clear picture.
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