Timer for pre-heating?

[pgseye]

Hi Guys,

How many of you use a timer attached to your power outlet to switch your machines on in the morning for pre-heating? I can see the convenience - but can't seem to find any with built in surge protection.

Thanks,

Paul

[skidquinn]

Hi Paul. I use one. Doesn't have surge protection, but i wasn't aware that was an option.
I think you'll probably find most people do use a timer, but will let others comment.

[Dimal]

Decent quality Surge Protection isn't a bad idea. Belkin make some, don't know about incorporated timers though...

Mal.

[artman]

Presumably you have the machine plugged into surge protection currently? Just plug the timer into the surge protector. Or am I missing something here?

I have been using the Arlec wifi switch. It's great being able to switch the machine on remotely heading home.

Cheers

[Boggas]

I use a belkin wemo insight switch. The ability to set rules on my smart phone coupled with remotely turning my coffee machine on from anywhere using my phone allows me to always give my HX machine at least 45min to warm up properly.

It doesn't have surge protection built in though I feel it is reasonably low risk as there is no PCBs or super sensitive electronics in my HX machine, however as artman said I couldn't see why you couldn't piggy back a timer onto a surge protector.

[readeral]

I use a Wemo Insight switch as well. You can do a heap of cool things with a bit of internet savvy.

[Caps]

+1 for the Wemo.

[pgseye]

Presumably you have the machine plugged into surge protection currently? Just plug the timer into the surge protector. Or am I missing something here?
Cheers

Cool - thanks guys. I normally like to have surge protection on expensive gear and was just trying to avoid having multiple connectors. We also don't have a lot of bench space to have a powerboard where the espresso machine, kettle, currently reside. I find it odd that there isn't easy availability of a timer with inbuilt surge protection :-) Am going to buy a new machine shortly, so haven't bothered with surge on my Venezia as yet. Just thinking about options.

I didn't know about the Wemo - will check it out. Can you program it so that it turns the unit on automatically at a set time each day?

Thank you.

Paul

[Boggas]

Cool - thanks guys. I normally like to have surge protection on expensive gear and was just trying to avoid having multiple connectors. We also don't have a lot of bench space to have a powerboard where the espresso machine, kettle, currently reside. I find it odd that there isn't easy availability of a timer with inbuilt surge protection :-) Am going to buy a new machine shortly, so haven't bothered with surge on my Venezia as yet. Just thinking about options.

I didn't know about the Wemo - will check it out. Can you program it so that it turns the unit on automatically at a set time each day?

Thank you.

Paul

There is a fair amount of control based on day, time, sunrise/sunset and the list goes on.

I am pretty sure the Belkin website will have a really good description of the functions

The insight switch gives you the same as the switch but with power monitoring incase you like to see how much power is being used by your machine.

[Dimal]

It doesn't have surge protection built in though I feel it is reasonably low risk as there is no PCBs or super sensitive electronics in my HX machine

It'd be an unusual HX machine that didn't incorporate electronics of some description.
Even my 35+ year old Bezzera BZ-35 machine has some basic electronics installed (including propriety ICs)...

Mal.

[Caps]

I didn't know about the Wemo - will check it out. Can you program it so that it turns the unit on automatically at a set time each day?

Yep, I have mine set to come on 30mins before my alarm goes off. Then it is set to turn off after I have left for work just in case I forget to turn it off. Then it is set to turn on 30 mins before I get home. I have different times set for weekends. The Wemo is setup to be connected to your home wifi so you can also turn the power on and off remotely via the app on your phone or mobile device.

You can set as many different times or 'rules' for different days as you please.

[Boggas]

It'd be an unusual HX machine that didn't incorporate electronics of some description.
Even my 35+ year old Bezzera BZ-35 machine has some basic electronics installed (including propriety ICs)...

Mal.

Thanks Mal my statement was a touch misleading and not my intent. There is some electronics in my machine, however not in the same volume as other devices I would consider more sensitive devices.

I do use surge protection on some devices at home but I have to draw the line somewhere. The coffee machine is in the same category as the fridge, washer and other very expensive kitchen appliances I own.

I am not an electrical engineer so I'm not suggesting this is the right or wrong approach it is just my approach.

[Dimal]

Each to their own of course but quality protection is very cheap insurance...

Mal.

[Airsk]

Cool - thanks guys. I normally like to have surge protection on expensive gear and was just trying to avoid having multiple connectors. We also don't have a lot of bench space to have a powerboard where the espresso machine, kettle, currently reside. I find it odd that there isn't easy availability of a timer with inbuilt surge protection :-) Am going to buy a new machine shortly, so haven't bothered with surge on my Venezia as yet. Just thinking about options.

I didn't know about the Wemo - will check it out. Can you program it so that it turns the unit on automatically at a set time each day?

Thank you.

Paul

Hi paul,

Why don't you fit a double GPO with surge protection built in? Like this? https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/55...-2025sfwe.html

Then use a Belkin Wemo to control it. Its great because you can control it from anywhere via wi-fi with your smartphone and set multiple days/times. So say you go away and forget to turn it off, you can remotely disable via your phone.

[Dimal]

Can be found for much cheaper than this though...

Mal.