Straw poll: is it ok that...

[Magic_Matt]

That's a good way to put it. Info and clarity upfront.
Good lesson is to ask the right questions next time you see "clearance" beans .

Yep, lesson learned for me 👍

Thanks all for the input and discussion. Good spectrum of opinion, that's what it's all about ☺️

[matth3wh]

Straw poll: is it ok that...

Clearance easily means different things to different standards and different sellers and buyers.

Simple and helpful thing to their customers would be to state roast dates or estimated age and let people decide before purchasing[emoji3]

[Magic_Matt]

A true coffeesnob wouldn't have gone for stuff marked 'clearance' in the first place.

Meh.......

[herzog]

A true coffeesnob wouldn't have gone for stuff marked 'clearance' in the first place.

[Magic_Matt]

To be honest the main concern is whether the product is fit for purpose. Have you tried it yet? If you try it and the product isn't fit for consumption then you can return it. My gut however tells me that you are simply dissapointed at the date written on the bag, and will continue to be regardless of what you taste in the cup.....

Fair point. I've smelled and chewed a couple of beans, I guess I should really confirm by running some shots.

I'm not really interested in returning the beans (return postage would mean I'd spent as much on shipping as the beans themselves...) - I'll give them to a mate who normally drinks preground illy.

I find it pretty amusing that people still think that Coffeesobs is the only enclave of people who know or care about decent coffee. It's 2017, not 2007, people! 😉

[Melbroaster]

Straw poll: is it ok that...

To be honest the main concern is whether the product is fit for purpose. Have you tried it yet? If you try it and the product isn't fit for consumption then you can return it. My gut however tells me that you are simply dissapointed at the date written on the bag, and will continue to be regardless of what you taste in the cup.....

[LeroyC]

A rather amusing thread. The funniest part is Coffee Snobs members being surprised that coffee bought on a clearance sale is well past its optimal use date. I mean, why else would they be on clearance?

I'll stick with Andy. Great coffee. Always fresh, great price.

Sure, it's the most likely reason, but not the only reason for a 'clearance sale'. Just a couple more words to the effect of 'old stock clearance' and there's a lot more clarity that could help avoid any confusion.

[dlight]

A rather amusing thread. The funniest part is Coffee Snobs members being surprised that coffee bought on a clearance sale is well past its optimal use date. I mean, why else would they be on clearance?

I'll stick with Andy. Great coffee. Always fresh, great price.

[Dimal]

I'd be pretty surprised to buy a Qantas ticket on sale and find myself on a Tiger aircraft... ��

It would depend from whom you purchased the ticket...
Just sayin'...

Mal.

[Andy]

Don't forget this is CoffeeSnobs

Of course, BeanBay sells fresh roasted coffee to order.

Everything is truly roasted to order and nothing is ever sitting on the shelf in the hope someone orders it. The only exception, and it's stated as such in the description, is the "roasted sample packs" which are either roasted to order or from the previous roast day (never shipped out if a week old).

You order and pay, the next scheduled roast day it's roasted and shipped. Depending on which shipping method you select it will be at your door within a day or so anywhere in Australia.

The most common complaint we have is the coffee arrived too fresh (true!) and the consumer had to wait to use it.

Fresh coffee roasted to order is possible but it can be a pain to manage and some people (not many thankfully) can get cranky at a few day wait for it to roast and freight.

Not everyone in the industry cares enough to try and let the customer decide how "aged" they like their coffee to be.

[Magic_Matt]

Don't forget this is CoffeeSnobs . There are people out there who may have bought the same beans, enjoyed them (as being better than the crap beans they usually buy) and may be congratulating themselves on getting such a bargain

Absolutely! But this company positions themselves as a speciality coffee business, showcasing the best beans from around the world. I think it's a bit poor if they then present stale rubbish, particularly without being upfront. Not a great way to educate the masses, and not a good way to represent the roaster they retail!

[Magic_Matt]

But they haven't done that. The generally accepted "use by" date of roasted whole beans is +12 months.

No they aren't at their peak, which is normally considered to be between 1 and 3 weeks, but that's why there's a heavy discount.

You can't pay Tiger Airlines prices and expect Qantas business class!

It's not, though, in speciality coffee circles! As an example, the owner at my local gave me some beans last weekend that he considered too old to sell - they were about four weeks post roast (and still very tasty).

If these beans had been four, five or even six weeks post-roast I'd be quite happy. But ten weeks is taking the mickey, imo.

I'd be pretty surprised to buy a Qantas ticket on sale and find myself on a Tiger aircraft... 🤔

[herzog]

Should you expect a grocery store to sell off produce? Milk past its use by date?

But they haven't done that. The generally accepted "use by" date of roasted whole beans is +12 months.

No they aren't at their peak, which is normally considered to be between 1 and 3 weeks, but that's why there's a heavy discount.

You can't pay Tiger Airlines prices and expect Qantas business class!

[flynnaus]

Don't forget this is CoffeeSnobs . There are people out there who may have bought the same beans, enjoyed them (as being better than the crap beans they usually buy) and may be congratulating themselves on getting such a bargain

[Magic_Matt]

In your case Matt my take on the situation is that what they've done would be totally fine if they'd been honest about it. I've had coffee that's been good as much as 8-10 weeks after the roast date, so 6 week old coffee has every chance of being ok if it's been stored carefully. So in my opinion it's not a problem to sell it, especially at a discounted rate, but the fact that it's a bit older should be clear before you make your payment. A clearance sale or discount could happen for any number of reasons, so they should be more explicit.

My thoughts exactly!