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  • GregWormald
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    Work bought a "high end" pod machine and a variety of pods.
    I used a Presso with my own beans and hand grinder with the pod machine to steam the milk, as did several other coffee fanciers.

    I can only suggest that if pod coffee tastes good to you--that's fine--but don't try good espresso.

    BTW--I've had some very second rate espresso at highly rated establishments (and for some reason France doesn't understand coffee).

    Greg

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  • simonsk8r
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    RESPECT! XD

    Wow love it... there are definite workarounds to limited beverages hey! And the milk would do quite well to mask any harshness in instant, although 6 tsp is impressive! I tip my hat to you!

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  • csutak40
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    Originally posted by trentski View Post
    I used to pull two of the shortest shots on the one at work and add 3 heaped teaspoons of milo and milk. Was ok [emoji108]
    Long ago (been retired for years) before any workplace had any kind of machinery except for a jug and a microwave, when I was desperate for caffeine and no time to go out to buy a cup of coffee, I used to make myself a cup with SIX or more teaspoons of instant, microwaved with no water, just milk. It was drinkable Other times I only drank tea at work
    Last edited by csutak40; 2 September 2017, 06:10 PM.

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  • simonsk8r
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    Oh that sounds incredible haha... seems like this is a trend that's catching on haha!

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  • trentski
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    I used to pull two of the shortest shots on the one at work and add 3 heaped teaspoons of milo and milk. Was ok [emoji108]

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  • simonsk8r
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    Originally posted by artman View Post
    My wife has a pod machine, luckily she keeps it in the cupboard unless she is using it. She loves that it is simple, quick, clean to use. She also loves the thicker milk made by the auto frothed/spinner thing. And she likes the taste.

    She is not interested in "real" coffee and won't use any of my coffee making equipment.

    To me the capsules taste "interesting" flavour wise but I find them thin and weak, just doesn't compare to espresso.

    The only way I find them remotely approaching espresso is to pull only a few ml from say three pods, and then add a few spoons of milo
    Hahaha that's awesome... XD

    Yeah pre-ground 7g coffee with 80 odd ml of water through it is gonna be interesting... that's why I say to pod machine owners to have a play with the settings and see how you can change the flavours. Obvious limitations, but worth trying.

    And yeah that's the thing, people enjoy it, so just go for it! I mean, I just got home from work and was hungry, so grabbed a spoon and the jar of Vegemite and went to town on it! Not everyone's cuppa tea but yummmm! XD

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  • artman
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    My wife has a pod machine, luckily she keeps it in the cupboard unless she is using it. She loves that it is simple, quick, clean to use. She also loves the thicker milk made by the auto frothed/spinner thing. And she likes the taste.

    She is not interested in "real" coffee and won't use any of my coffee making equipment.

    To me the capsules taste "interesting" flavour wise but I find them thin and weak, just doesn't compare to espresso.

    The only way I find them remotely approaching espresso is to pull only a few ml from say three pods, and then add a few spoons of milo

    What really grinds with me (pardon the pun) is the huge cost per kg, and the landfill thing is another, they say they are recycling the pods etc but not sure how that works in reality.

    Agree their marketing is amazing, selling coffee at $200 per kg is a great effort! And their shops are set up amazingly well, as described by wattgn, very Apple-ish.

    How do they make their pumps so quiet? Haven't ripped one apart but if it uses a normal vibe pump the isolation is impressive.

    Cheers

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  • wattgn
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    Interesting information. Thanks for that. I like to keep up with what is going on. I still think pods are great for people who want simple and low up front costs. Obviously not as good as the real thing done properly but how many people pay $2000 for a combo grinder espresso machine from HN and still get crap coffee?

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  • noidle22
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    Something that I notice, as I repair a lot of Nespresso machines, is just how well built they are. This is exclusively Nespresso, the rest are trash.

    They use quality components and are intelligently put together. Surprisingly enough, they are built to be repaired from my point of view.

    The entire heating system is it's own module. Removing one or two screws enables the whole lot to slide out of the side of the machine.

    Replacing the capsule mechanism, a common repair, is very simple and can be done in minutes.

    The overall fit and finish of the machines is great.

    As to the coffee they make, I don't really like it. Plenty of my customer's do though and as long as they're happy and buying the machines that I get to repair then I'm happy.

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  • wattgn
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    I see Sirius and other coffee companies produce their own pods?

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  • trentski
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    Originally posted by Magic_Matt View Post
    Well, I guess it's not entirely impossible that Nestlé have hit upon some hitherto unknown secret to making amazing coffee by adding things to stale grounds.
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    The guys that used to work in the cigarette companies must have moved over.

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  • matth3wh
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    Open the Pod Bay Doors HAL

    Maybe you can approach Nestle Wattgn?

    Is Cluney still involved with this malarkey or did he takes his sacks of cash and run?

    Any time there's a massive cash splash going on there's a nice margin to be found. Or the receivers soon come in and drink all that spare coffee.

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  • wattgn
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    Originally posted by Magic_Matt View Post
    Well, I guess it's not entirely impossible that Nestlé have hit upon some hitherto unknown secret to making amazing coffee by adding things to stale grounds.

    Yep, their marketing is good. Their coffee isn't, but then that's only a byproduct of what they're selling.
    They know what people like. Big companies like that do a lot of taste testing and probably employ PhD Food Technologists. I suspect a lot goes on behind the scenes developing and testing product. If you have a product that is unappealing to consumers you aren't going to last very long.

    I remember at Peters and Brownes they used to do a lot of taste testing ditto when I worked in the Dairy Industry in New Zealand they employ statisticians and food technologists to develop products and test them.

    These pods are at the opposite end of the spectrum in some ways to fresh coffee, yet I liked what I tasted. I'd like to know how they do it.

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  • Magic_Matt
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    Well, I guess it's not entirely impossible that Nestlé have hit upon some hitherto unknown secret to making amazing coffee by adding things to stale grounds.

    Yep, their marketing is good. Their coffee isn't, but then that's only a byproduct of what they're selling.

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  • wattgn
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    Originally posted by Magic_Matt View Post
    That's the key here, eh - the whole point of pod machines (at least for 99% of consumers) is the convenience of a pre-prepared, packaged item that doesn't take any effort or thought from the user. You'll never get good coffee from stale preground beans, irrespective of preparation method. So while it might be feasible to make good pod coffee by grinding fresh and filling the pods immediately before use, it's a moot point for the majority who either don't care or can't tell the difference. Just as it's irrelevant whether the pods are recyclable or compostible as they end up in landfill most of the time anyway.
    What we don't really know is what else they put in the pods. They are obviously protected from light and oxygen and some pods do have stated flavourings in them also. It is possible they add stabilisers to prevent changes to the coffee. I don't know.

    Mind you I think they have done a good job, they have spent a lot of money on research, production and marketing to get where they are now.

    I think they have followed the example of Apple and turned the shops into some sort of Church. My tongue in cheek review covered that. Everything is well thought out.

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