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Royal Albert is a similar example. Collectors still value the Old made in England ones even if the patterns are still current. Example the old English rose pattern is still in production but collectors generally look for the stamp underneath that says “made in England”. If it simply says “royal Albert England” it’s not made in England. I don’t believe those made in China are of a lesser quality...but for collectors they are of lesser value.
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The advantage that Chnese manufacturers have over much of the other industrialised countries is that they can produce goods very cheaply.Originally posted by flynnaus View PostThe inference here is that anything Chinese tends to be cheap knockoffs and yes, there is a large number of products fitting that description.
However, two point here:
- China has the capability of making very high quality goods; it depends on how much the client is prepared to pay
- The Chinese pretty much invented ceramics and have perfected the technique over the millenia (Ming vase anyone?)
Let's see the finished product, shall we?
At the same time they can also produce goods of very high quality.
A Chinese manufacture has the capacity to make a product to a budget whether that is $1 or $10, you let them know what you want and it will be made to that standard. Same product just different quality depending on the budget. I know because we have one of our products made in China so i have first hand experience in the quality of work they can produce.
To me the inference is that people will read "Designed in Italy " as "made in Italy" It is a deliberate wording designed to create that impression.
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Antony
www.casaespresso.com.au
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Originally posted by LeroyC View PostYou know I’ve got a funny feeling it’s actually Acme & Co that bought the name. Acme are ‘designed in NZ made in China’ so that part fits. I wonder.....The inference here is that anything Chinese tends to be cheap knockoffs and yes, there is a large number of products fitting that description.Yeah there’s not much point if they aren’t Italian made. There’s a million Chinese knockoffs already.
However, two points here:
- China has the capability of making very high quality goods; it depends on how much the client is prepared to pay
- The Chinese pretty much invented ceramics and have perfected the technique over the millenia (Ming vase anyone?)
Let's see the finished product, shall we?
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Acme and Co are owned by the old NZ/Aust distributor of ACF..
The new ACF is purely the purchase of a name as i understand it.
Spot on about the "designed in Italy", almost a given if you read that they are not "made in Italy"
Marketing at its best
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Antony
www.casaespresso.com.au
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Well Wile E. Coyote should be very happy with them then!

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You know I’ve got a funny feeling it’s actually Acme & Co that bought the name. Acme are ‘designed in NZ made in China’ so that part fits. I wonder.....
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Yeah there’s not much point if they aren’t Italian made. There’s a million Chinese knockoffs already.
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I am a bit concerned about 'Designed in Italy' and nothing else. To me that means 'Designed in Italy, Made in China'.
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I’m pretty sure someone bought them, or at least the name and some IP if not their assets. Can’t remember who it was.Originally posted by flynnaus View PostI have over a dozen ACF cups so probably not in the market for more (unless Isuddenly get very clumsy) but good to see the brand has been resurrected.
https://acfcups.com

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ACF is back
I have over a dozen ACF cups so probably not in the market for more (unless Isuddenly get very clumsy) but good to see the brand has been resurrected.
https://acfcups.com
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