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  • #16
    I agree it's ludicrous, but I can't see social media taking direct blame. Yes social media is the means by which people show off to other people but it's the internal need to show off to other people or feel superior etc that is to blame. This internal need is as old as humans. Sure social media exacerbates it a bit but the underlying human condition is what social media is magnifying, without the underlying condition social media would have been a complete flop before it began. Sounds to me like an article targeted at boomers

    FWIW I have next to no interest in social media outside of CS.

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    • #17
      ....... wowza......... that is extreme haha...

      I mean, in the $16 a cup thread I was like: ah yeah for sure I'd give that a go! But $150...

      Does anyone know why the extreme price tag? What coffee? That's even high for a kilo of roasted beans, but a single cup...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
        I agree it's ludicrous, but I can't see social media taking direct blame. Yes social media is the means by which people show off to other people but it's the internal need to show off to other people or feel superior etc that is to blame. This internal need is as old as humans. Sure social media exacerbates it a bit but the underlying human condition is what social media is magnifying, without the underlying condition social media would have been a complete flop before it began. Sounds to me like an article targeted at boomers [emoji14]

        FWIW I have next to no interest in social media outside of CS.
        That is a very astute observation, well said .

        I've only just gotten back onto social media, still don't use it much, but I like it for the communal feel and support. Serves a nice connecting purpose. And also to keep in the loop with certain areas of interest and pages I like. Don't use it or buy into any of the other nonsense (looking for 'likes', propping myself up etc)

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        • #19
          I'm not suggesting the media are responsible for the actions of the retailers, the retailers themselves are the people employing psychology enabling them to take advantage of feeble minded consumers, they must roll around on the floor laughing whenever someone parts with $150 for a wine glass 2/3rds full of coffee.

          If a few gullible punters are prepared to pay, why not!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
            Sure social media exacerbates it a bit but the underlying human condition is what social media is magnifying, without the underlying condition social media would have been a complete flop before it began.
            I'd suggest that rather than exacerbate it a bit, it demands it and preys on the human need to be included and acknowledged. I've no doubt that the development of the various social media platforms was largely guided by company Psychologists and the like, manipulating people's behaviour to keep them addicted to their social media sites, thereby reaping mega dollars due to this addiction. I've watched someone I have known for 30 years go from being a confident, decisive individual to a person living by a script dictated by what is perceived to be acceptable by online drones. Yes there is a lot of good that can come out of it if used responsibly but in a lot of cases its like putting a loaded gun into the hands of a child.
            Last edited by CafeLotta; 11 October 2018, 08:16 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by simonsk8r View Post
              ....... wowza......... that is extreme haha...

              I mean, in the $16 a cup thread I was like: ah yeah for sure I'd give that a go! But $150...

              Does anyone know why the extreme price tag? What coffee? That's even high for a kilo of roasted beans, but a single cup...
              The coffee comes from José Alfredo’s #227 limited batch, which sells for around $7000.

              https://dailycoffeenews.com/2017/10/...c-innervation/

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              • #22
                i went to a cupping of ninety plus coffees at admiral cheng-ho. it was a free event, and the vast majority of coffees on the table were in the hundreds of USD per kilo green pre-shipment. i will remember that cupping forever. some of those coffees may as well have been perfume for the aroma and taste. all i really have to say on this matter is damnant quod non intelligunt.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by woodhouse View Post
                  i went to a cupping of ninety plus coffees at admiral cheng-ho. it was a free event, and the vast majority of coffees on the table were in the hundreds of USD per kilo green pre-shipment. i will remember that cupping forever. some of those coffees may as well have been perfume for the aroma and taste. all i really have to say on this matter is damnant quod non intelligunt.
                  Yep, there is some incredible stuff out there, and having tasted some top tier ones too it's really a whole other level...

                  If I had the money I'd definitely every now and then go for it.

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                  • #24
                    Wary about these sort of news items and how much truth is behind them but the claims here are concerning

                    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...13-p509gj.html
                    ...researchers and roasters say a perfect storm of economic and environmental challenges could prove fatal to the coffee industry within decades unless critical work is done to improve the climate resilience of coffee plants, and ensure the profitability of coffee farming.
                    Coffee is at greater risk from climate change than many other crops because of its lack of diversity. Only 52 varieties exist - compared to wine with more than 1000, or watermelon with 675, or even avocado at 129. With fewer plant varieties, there are fewer conditions in which it can be grown successfully.

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                    • #25
                      Coffee in the News

                      Interesting that the claims in this article echo a mention in Sprudge Coffee's recently released book "The New Rules of Coffee", when discussing the main species of coffee, that "Arabica is fussy, prone to disease, difficult to manage, dangerously overplanted as a monocrop......"

                      As an aside, one of the rules is "The flat white does not exist". Controversial!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Otago View Post
                        As an aside, one of the rules is "The flat white does not exist"
                        What do they say a flat white is? The bottom half of a latte combined with the bottom half of another latte, with the top 3mm of a third latte on top?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
                          What do they say a flat white is? The bottom half of a latte combined with the bottom half of another latte, with the top 3mm of a third latte on top?
                          Hahahaha...

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                          • #28
                            All this takes me back to the days of my youth ('60-70s) when "The Cafe" was defined by your local Greek Cafe with all the booths down one side and stools at the counter.
                            If you were aware that there was any sort of coffee other than 'Instant' you could order a Cappuccino which the owner would make using a big hot shiny steel machine behind the counter.
                            Most young people ordered an 'Ice-Cream Sunday' of one sort or another that came in about a dozen different flavours, and of course there were Malted Milks and Milkshakes.
                            So I guess coffee and fancy milk-based drinks have always co-existed, it's just that the emphasis has changed a bit.
                            I wish I could remember when I had my first espresso-style coffee - must have been in my late 20s or early 30s.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Rockford View Post
                              Coffee study measures caffeine content to see what packs the most punch

                              https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/fo...f9c2accce0271f

                              For anyone interested in the results, head to this page - https://cremacoffeegarage.com.au/caffeine-study - you can request a copy of the full report as well using the email on the page.

                              Thanks to Rockford for sharing!

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                              • #30
                                Hot brew coffee has higher levels of antioxidants than cold brew

                                https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1101085137.htm

                                In a new study, Jefferson (Philadelphia University + Thomas Jefferson University) researchers found chemical differences between hot and cold brew coffee that may have health impacts. In particular, the researchers found that hot-brewed coffee has higher levels of antioxidants, which are believed to be responsible for some of the health benefits of coffee.

                                The study, published Oct. 30 in Scientific Reports, also found that the pH levels of both hot and cold coffee were similar, ranging from 4.85 to 5.13 for all coffee samples tested. Coffee companies and lifestyle blogs have tended to tout cold brew coffee as being less acidic than hot coffee and thus less likely to cause heartburn or gastrointestinal problems.

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