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  • Elusive god shot.

    Despite all the expense and effort, the god shot remains elusive. Even the gifted baristas among us, only manage them occasionally. With all our technology, what's stopping us from getting a better strike rate?

    Ps just wondering.

    Ps 2 do we even want a god shot everytime?

  • #2
    99% strike rate here. Izzo Pompei and Monolith Conical.

    In response to PS 2- yes we do!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gavisconi007 View Post
      99% strike rate here. Izzo Pompei and Monolith Conical.

      In response to PS 2- yes we do!
      Would you say it’s monolith making it easy to hit perfect shots ?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Gavisconi007 View Post
        99% strike rate here. Izzo Pompei and Monolith Conical...
        That's all well and good, but what are you doing wrong the other 1% of the time?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ardent View Post
          Would you say it’s monolith making it easy to hit perfect shots ?
          I would say it’s the combination of lever and Monolith. The Monolith helped me to go from a strike rate of roughly 75% to 99%

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          • #6
            Originally posted by OCD View Post
            That's all well and good, but what are you doing wrong the other 1% of the time?
            Happens occasionally when swapping beans if I forgot to adjust the grind setting

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            • #7
              What grinder did you have before the monolith?

              and did you get the tin coated burrs or running with the standard burrs,

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ardent View Post
                What grinder did you have before the monolith?

                and did you get the tin coated burrs or running with the standard burrs,
                Immediately before the Monolith I had a Robur set up for single dosing which was still excellent but the Monolith is definitely a noticeable step up in terms of consistency and taste.

                I have the red speed burrs.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gavisconi007 View Post
                  99% strike rate here. Izzo Pompei and Monolith Conical.

                  In response to PS 2- yes we do!
                  Sorry Asian "F" lol

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                  • #10
                    Mate, if it makes you feel any better, I'm a few days in. Got through 250g of beans on the first session. Using a bottomless PF, the first few pulls shat themselves all over the kitchen side, partly due to shitty prep and mostly due to me concentrating on the scales and timer and not turning the flow off! Then wasted loads more trying to 'dial in'. Then for some reason i thought it would be a good idea to take the hopper off my little mignon to see what was going on, forgot to slide the little thing in, boom. Beans everywhere. Scooped them all back in, and clogged the mignon with damp beans. Spent the evening opening it up and cleaning the burrs. Great fun. Never mind the god shot, i just want A shot...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OCD View Post
                      Despite all the expense and effort, the god shot remains elusive. Even the gifted baristas among us, only manage them occasionally. With all our technology, what's stopping us from getting a better strike rate?

                      Ps just wondering.

                      Ps 2 do we even want a god shot everytime?
                      G'day OCD

                      I reckon nailing an espresso shot to near perfection is one of life's joys. I hesitate to use the term "god shot" as I really do not think it is a good descriptor - and that is totally ignoring any religious connotations.

                      I spent years in a love / hate (or perhaps a hate / love / hate / hate) relationship with a manual lever Electra. When I was on the top of my game it produced a magic cuppa "almost 100% of the time" (not counting the setup of a new roast).

                      The hate part: the sheer amount of faffing around needed to coax the SOB to produce its finest was pretty wearisome after a year or so - even more so after the first ten million years... (apologies to Douglas Adams). Also the knowledge that you were really tired and wanted a top drawer shot while knowing damn well that the Miss S / GS3 next to it was your best option at that precise moment in time as the "Eagle E" would bite you severely unless all necessary homage was undertaken in a fully awake state... Then of course the "wonderful feeling" when your current lover brings four or six of her "bestie friends" for a cuppa - all of which have been told to expect the best coffee of their miserable caffeine deprived lives - when the Eagle E can only do two shots in a row before yet another set of extended arcane rituals taking over a galactic eon or two before it will even consider delivering something drinkable to your unworthy self as a third cuppa. Honestly, I haven't missed my Eagle E because those issues completely negated the good points after a while. It got to the stage where I was fantasising about a machine where you can just set it up and then repeat the chosen shot endlessly... and that was probably 20+ years ago.

                      Yes, we do want a brilliant shot every time - otherwise we may as use the $4 instant that choice reckoned was the best instant - bliss, just throw some near boiling water over a spoon of the brown crystals. How easy is that!

                      So fellow OCD coffee fiend, I bought a few good espresso grinders and finally (recently - Feb 2019) settled on a Decent DE1. At least after the initial setup for each new roast I can just press "start" and get a shot that equals (probably just surpasses, mainly due to the Eagle E not accepting VST baskets) the Electra and do it as often as I want with no effort until I need to change roasts. Its next test will be a variety of coffees for 40 guests in a month or so - I reckon it can do a max of around 45 coffees an hour (estimate only) so I will also have another machine or two handy "just in case". If it passes that test then I finally have an espresso machine worth holding onto long term (subject to any reliability gremlins). Only taken since 1970.

                      So I suppose I also "want it all and want it now" just like most (all) other CS'r's.

                      Enjoy your cuppa - whether it is a $4 instant or something a bit more upmarket - without bringing any unnecessary deities into the equation.


                      TampIt.
                      Last edited by TampIt; 5 June 2019, 11:55 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TampIt View Post
                        ...I reckon nailing an espresso shot to near perfection is one of life's joys. I hesitate to use the term "god shot" as I really do not think it is a good descriptor - and that is totally ignoring any religious connotations...
                        Hi Tampit,
                        Couldn't agree more. There are enough gods around already.
                        What about supershot or wondershot? Any suggestions?

                        Ps surely an exceptional coffee shot deserves its own unique and descriptive name.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OCD View Post
                          Hi Tampit,
                          Couldn't agree more. There are enough gods around already.
                          What about supershot or wondershot? Any suggestions?

                          Ps surely an exceptional coffee shot deserves its own unique and descriptive name.
                          Its a well accepted term OCD, been around for as long as I've been a member of Coffee Snobs, Google God Shot, the folk on CoffeeGeek were discussing it back in 2002
                          CoffeeGeek - Defining What is the God Shotthat's well before most of us were into espresso, even back then they comment that the term had been around for a few years.

                          "surely an exceptional coffee shot deserves its own unique and descriptive name." I agree, its known as a god shot.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                            Its a well accepted term OCD, been around for as long as I've been a member of Coffee Snobs, Google God Shot, the folk on CoffeeGeek were discussing it back in 2002
                            CoffeeGeek - Defining What is the God Shotthat's well before most of us were into espresso, even back then they comment that the term had been around for a few years.

                            "surely an exceptional coffee shot deserves its own unique and descriptive name." I agree, its known as a god shot.

                            G'Day Yelta

                            I realise the longevity of the term - I heard it in "live" in the late 70's, on various (mainly academic IT) bulletin boards in the 80's and in alt.coffee posts in the 90's. I disliked the term then and still haven't changed my mind on that issue.

                            I agree it needs a term - just not that one (or "Allah shot", or "Brahma shot" etc.). It is a cuppa, not a shrine - says he as he worships at the altar of coffee taste - arguably hypocritical I suppose.


                            Having said that, as long as I am getting (mostly) stunning shots to enjoy, I really do not care that much what others call it.

                            Enjoy your cuppa - whatever you call your particular breed of poison.

                            TampIt

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                            • #15
                              Been around even longer than that Yelta...
                              Mentioned loads of times by aspirants and experts alike on Usenet from the mid 90s onward when I first started researching coffee online.

                              Mal.

                              !!Snap!!

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