Carmen00, coffee is so personal and really what one person likes is not necessarily what another does. Like wine, you probably don't want to drink the same brand and variety every time and so you experiment. Coffee is the same in my opinion. If you drink a latte then you will want something that cuts through milk and a dose that allows you to have a balance between milk and coffee. We have a lot of customers with automatic machines who want a better tasting coffee than capsules and a lot with high end cafe like home machines. Again a personal decision as to how much money you have to spend, how much time and effort you want to put into your morning cuppa and how much space you have in your kitchen. What ever you do please don't buy capsules as they are really just a step up from instant, they are not environmentally friendly and they are not supporting a local family business.
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Carmen00, coffee is so personal and really what one person likes is not necessarily what another does. Like wine, you probably don't want to drink the same brand and variety every time and so you experiment. Coffee is the same in my opinion. If you drink a latte then you will want something that cuts through milk and a dose that allows you to have a balance between milk and coffee. We have a lot of customers with automatic machines who want a better tasting coffee than capsules and a lot with high end cafe like home machines. Again a personal decision as to how much money you have to spend, how much time and effort you want to put into your morning cuppa and how much space you have in your kitchen. What ever you do please don't buy capsules as they are really just a step up from instant, they are not environmentally friendly and they are not supporting a local family business.
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You've cherry picked some pros, but the pros of the Silvia are it's tried and tested scorecard, it's 58mm group handle that I use on a bunch of other machines including my Expobar and the spare parts.
I'm not bagging the Lelit, I just think it has less brand cache and a few important specs aren't on par with the Rancilio.
It certainly is a worthy competitor, but Rancilio have obviously priced their machine to still be successful.
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Bobsac fair to value things how you see fit. You are handier than me, for the $80 difference really wouldn't allow any value on my time to install a gauge and pid, it would take me an hour just to drill the stainless cover of the Sylvia to accept the gauge. Then the pid wouldn't be warranted, the sylvia importer want $249 for pid with warranty. So in the end I would have spent hours doing the work, to end up with a machine with no pid or gauge warranty and still has a slower warmup, a smaller drip tray and mild steel rather than stainless frame. Seems a no brainer to me on a new purchase. Can understand if you have an existing Sylvia you may choose to keep it rather than change, but for a new purchase the value difference exceeds the price difference.
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Add the new Brugnetti Simona Top to that list.Originally posted by BobSac View PostYeah, so not really comparable.
Hencey question, because I'm really genuinely interested, what's about the price of a Silvia (say within $200) and significantly better, enough to justtify am extra $200.
Or, what does what the Silvia does, including taking into account build quality and costs less than a Silvia.
Would be interesting, my Silvia is getting on and I wouldn't mind a new toy, I looked around and found nothing, but perhaps I've missed an option or two.
I'd argue the Lelit PL41TEMD mentioned above comes closest, but it's still $100 more and has what seems to be a pressure gauge and PID, both of which can be fit to the Silvia equalising the cost, in which case I'd argue the Silvia is the better option as the tried and true product.
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Yeah, so not really comparable.Originally posted by 338 View PostBobsac there a few comparisons of the lelit and sylvia on here, I think the ECM single boiler E61 is near the top of the single boiler pile but double the price.
Hencey question, because I'm really genuinely interested, what's about the price of a Silvia (say within $200) and significantly better, enough to justtify am extra $200.
Or, what does what the Silvia does, including taking into account build quality and costs less than a Silvia.
Would be interesting, my Silvia is getting on and I wouldn't mind a new toy, I looked around and found nothing, but perhaps I've missed an option or two.
I'd argue the Lelit PL41TEMD mentioned above comes closest, but it's still $100 more and has what seems to be a pressure gauge and PID, both of which can be fit to the Silvia equalising the cost, in which case I'd argue the Silvia is the better option as the tried and true product.
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Bobsac there a few comparisons of the lelit and sylvia on here, I think the ECM single boiler E61 is near the top of the single boiler pile but double the price.
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I bought the Breville dual boiler recently.
Nice machine, but not really comparable to the Silvia imo.
It's a dual boiler and it's going to last a few years at best.
My Silvia is 10 years old and still works fine, no servicing.
I'm not being facetious, I genuinely believe it's useful to have a list of single boiler machines similar to the Silvia in a similar price bracket so we can analyse specifications and anyone looking at purchasing can make a more informed decision.
I'm looking at buying something to replace the Silvia only because I have gear upgrade itis
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What would that be?Originally posted by Yelta View PostI was obviously referring to people contemplating buying a new machine (didn't think I needed to spell it out) a new Silvia will cost you a little over $900, quite a few better options to choose from in that price bracket.
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I was obviously referring to people contemplating buying a new machine (didn't think I needed to spell it out) a new Silvia will cost you a little over $900, quite a few better options to choose from in that price bracket.Originally posted by BobSac View PostI've got a Silvia I'm looking at replacing, what are examples of 'much better machines' for the price of a used Silvia?
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