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  • #31
    Originally posted by Yelta View Post
    we've turned into a nation of fragile, offended, entitled, self absorbed types who expect the world to bow down to every outrageous request/demand we make.
    I have to agree. We've lost perspective and the profligate, pre-GFC years has built a culture of entitlement.

    As far as our beverage of choice is concerned it seems the public at large no longer drink coffee, but some sweetened adulterated coffee based concoction.
    I think we are gradually evolving past the Starbucks-style of beverages. Here in Sydney, it's not hard to find a good cafe serving good coffee.

    Hows that for a morning rave?
    Cheer up!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by flynnaus View Post
      Cheer up!
      Mornin Flynn,

      All good, I'm happy, how could I not be, off to Cambodia in a week or so, should be interesting.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Yelta View Post
        Mornin Flynn,

        All good, I'm happy, how could I not be, off to Cambodia in a week or so, should be interesting.
        Enjoy. Hope there's some decent coffee there but I understand that Cambodia is fairly flat and they grow only robusta.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by flynnaus View Post
          Enjoy. Hope there's some decent coffee there but I understand that Cambodia is fairly flat and they grow only robusta.
          Very much doubt it, Vietnam was pretty grim when we were there a couple of years back, I don't expect any better in Cambodia, I suspect beer will be the beverage of choice.

          Couple of days in Singapore on way up there and coming back, I imagine coffee will be OK there.

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          • #35
            I feel I am a lot more tolerant than a fair few of those that have commented.

            Besides a dirty steam wand or a bunch of preground coffee in the doser, I’ll give most places a chance

            I have had some amazing coffee on a wega and Mazzer super jolly and some terrible on synesso and Mythos.

            As for who is making the coffee, I actually find the younger ones take a lot more care. I have walked away once from one person in all my time. She was mid 40s and was very inconsistent when cutting off a shot (one was 15seconds and the one next to it was 1 minute) She just cut it off when she was ready.

            Now, whether or not I go back is another question.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Yelta View Post
              We Aussies expect businesses to cater to every little self diagnosed allergy/intolerance/preference, we make, we've turned into a nation of fragile, offended, entitled, self absorbed types who expect the world to bow down to every outrageous request/demand we make.
              Speak for yourself. I expect incompetence and indifference - saves disappointment that way.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                Couple of days in Singapore on way up there and coming back, I imagine coffee will be OK there.
                Should be OK. Use the force, Luke.
                I was in Singapore in March-April and it has come a long way since my previous visit in 2014. While it still has its fair share of crapucchino type cafes, I had a quite reasonable coffee at a few places such as The Sandwich Shop in Collyer Quay. Even the cup I bought at the Singapore Zoo was surprisingly drinkable

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by flynnaus View Post
                  Should be OK. Use the force, Luke.
                  I was in Singapore in March-April and it has come a long way since my previous visit in 2014. While it still has its fair share of crapucchino type cafes, I had a quite reasonable coffee at a few places such as The Sandwich Shop in Collyer Quay. Even the cup I bought at the Singapore Zoo was surprisingly drinkable
                  What a coincidence, the boss and I were just discussing the possibility of visiting the Zoo, perhaps do the breakfast thing with Orangutan's, is the zoo worth the effort?

                  Any other recommendations in Singapore, we're interested in history more than glitz and glamour.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                    Vietnam was pretty grim when we were there a couple of years back
                    If you visit Hoi An, I've had a pretty good coffee at the Hoi An Roastery. They are at a number of locations in Hoi An itself, don't know if they have spread beyond there. They have a website etc to check.

                    In my brief experience a year or so ago, The Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, is in Ho Chi Minh & others, and better than some, but stick to black or macchiato, they screw up the milk.

                    GrahamK

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GrahamK View Post
                      If you visit Hoi An, I've had a pretty good coffee at the Hoi An Roastery. They are at a number of locations in Hoi An itself, don't know if they have spread beyond there. They have a website etc to check.

                      In my brief experience a year or so ago, The Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, is in Ho Chi Minh & others, and better than some, but stick to black or macchiato, they screw up the milk.

                      GrahamK
                      Wont be visiting Vietnam, this trip, direct flight Singapore to Phnom Penh.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                        What a coincidence, the boss and I were just discussing the possibility of visiting the Zoo, perhaps do the breakfast thing with Orangutan's, is the zoo worth the effort?

                        Any other recommendations in Singapore, we're interested in history more than glitz and glamour.
                        I was a bit underwhelmed by the zoo to tell you the truth. Apart from the fact that you are seeing animals in captivity (yes, I know they stand a better chance of survival than in the wild) there were a few too many exhibits not open and there was no wow factor. I found the Jurong Bird Park more interesting.
                        This trip I took the ride to the top observation deck of the Marina Bay Sands hotel/casino and wasworthwhile. The nearby Gardens by the Bay isn't bad either.
                        Several museums in Singapore - check this out. For me, Singapore is about family (in-laws) and food but I couldn't live there-climate too oppressive.
                        Anyway, we are way off topic.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by flynnaus View Post
                          I was a bit underwhelmed by the zoo to tell you the truth.
                          Thanks useful info.

                          Back on topic.

                          Here's an instance that caused me to leave without ordering.

                          In a WA goldfields town, noticed a sandwich board advertising espresso, walked into what was obviously a sandwich bar (the sign was perhaps the clue) no sign of an espresso machine, asked the question, the lady answered in the affirmative, reached under the counter and dragged out a cold Silvia which she plonked on the bench and proceeded to plug in, was a little nonplussed when I demurred, perhaps I missed an opportunity, guess I'll never know.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                            Mornin Flynn,

                            All good, I'm happy, how could I not be, off to Cambodia in a week or so, should be interesting.

                            Safe travels, this thread may be pertinent for a Cambodia trip. Might need to take a trusty Aeropress with a bag of your favourite locally roasted product

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                            • #44
                              What draws me into a cafe is what is in the hopper, and in recent times even where the hopper is located. I wont order a coffee if all they have is one of the generic brands Piazza Doro, Vitorria... Now i am starting to sound like a Coffee Snob "LoL" but anyway, now that i have developed an appreciation for what coffee can offer in its pure extraction ie: Espresso or a Long Black. and 2, correct me if i'm wrong as i really am quite new to finer points of coffee... but when the hopper is sitting in the window enjoying the sunshine, diminishing the potential greatness that was once held in those artisan roasted beans... That's where I want to be sitting

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                              • #45
                                Vittoria beans... Or beans that look black and oily.
                                Then time the shot in my head. If it's near 30 sec...then ok.

                                Although I drink black coffee, I am learning to hear when milk is steamed to temperature. So could avoid scalded milk by ear..

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