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  • #16
    I think liberica is one of the beans in Vietnamese coffee? I.e. the iced coffee you get in Viet restaurants.

    As Andy said, likely undrinkable without condensed milk. But extremely delicious with it, I think!

    Grown for its disease resistance, no doubt, making a cheap product. You'll probably struggle to find a good quality producer the same way robustas here are sourced.

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    • #17
      Nup, Viet coffee is 100% robusta roasted dark enough to show oils and let rest for months.

      It's easy to recreate!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Andy View Post
        Nup, Viet coffee is 100% robusta roasted dark enough to show oils and let rest for months.

        It's easy to recreate!
        Sounds enticing.

        Not sure I would want to recreate it.

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        • #19
          Have to admit until reading this thread had not even heard of Liberica beans.

          Trees grow to 65 feet! I imagine special equipment needed for picking, perhaps a shaker???

          Found this description online:

          “Manly Coffee.” eh, guess that'd get the attention of the macho types.

          "Liberica
          An heirloom coffee species that offers a completely different flavor to the two big players. Liberica are huge coffee berries that have smoky, nutty, dark chocolate notes when roasted and brewed. The coffee bearingtrees themselves can grow up to 65 feet, towering over their counterparts.
          Native to Western and Central Africa, the species was introduced in Indonesia at the close of the 19th century to replace the arabica trees killed by rust. The species is now grown in Africa, South America and South East Asia, where its production has earned it a dedicated following in the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia.
          Because Liberica has run into near extinction in the past and isn’t widely cultivated, it is a rare commodity that can be expensive in California (given you’re even able to find it). Its smoldering, dense flavors are not for every palate, so the Filipinos named it “Manly Coffee.”
          The current method for profiling coffee focuses on where the plant is grown, and that certainly affects your coffee but it doesn’t tell the whole story. Few people ask what species of bean they are drinking, although this is something that can make an immense difference."

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Yelta View Post
            Have to admit until reading this thread had not even heard of Liberica beans
            You could have seen it here ...
            https://coffeesnobs.com.au/general-c...-pr-ncipe.html

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            • #21
              Originally posted by flynnaus View Post
              Hmmmm, missed it, looks like a lot of others did as well.

              Will fill the gap now.

              Interesting! had heard of Principe, had no idea where it was.

              Beans used in production of high grade chocolate.

              The islanders are not coffee drinkers.

              Green up to EUR16 kg at plantation, no wonder its not well know.

              Thanks Flynn.
              Last edited by Yelta; 2 October 2019, 06:56 PM.

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              • #22
                Well Sao Tomé coffee is (up to) €16 per kg. I imagine the Philipinno liberica coffee would be much cheaper and Sao Tome and Principle has a much higher cost of living.

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                • #23
                  Liberica is available from an expat Filipino in NZ and I’ve tried it. It has lots more flavour than robusta. That’s only a good thing if you like cheese flavoured coffee. Horrible stuff.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                    Liberica is available from an expat Filipino in NZ and I’ve tried it. It has lots more flavour than robusta. That’s only a good thing if you like cheese flavoured coffee. Horrible stuff.
                    Having first hand experience with Filipino cuisine, it could well have been cheese flavoured (with real cheese)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by flynnaus View Post
                      Having first hand experience with Filipino cuisine, it could well have been cheese flavoured (with real cheese)
                      No it’s a well known flavour attribute of Liberica unfortunately.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Andy View Post
                        Nup, Viet coffee is 100% robusta roasted dark enough to show oils and let rest for months.

                        It's easy to recreate!
                        My bad, I swore I read it on the back of a packet of Trung Nguyen once, but it must have been excelsa, as shown here.

                        Another one to avoid!

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                        • #27
                          Saw this thread while trying to source locally roasted liberica in australia. Have to say liberica is absolutely amazing if processed right. Had some from a specialty cafe in Sarawak precovid (earthling i think they are called). It was sweet, fruity and gorgeous and cannot compare to commercial consumer liberica discussed in the previous post.

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                          • #28
                            I was fully on board to try something new until I heard cheese profile...
                            colour me very skeptical.

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