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  • coffeechris
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    Originally posted by roosterben View Post
    Little more hijacking of Sullos thread and info about the water dispenser pump, but does relate to pump/water options for Frankencarts.

    I ordered the water bottle dispenser pump and half a dozen 1/4" quick connect fittings;

    1. T Splitter (split pump to water filter and coffee machine)
    2. Non return valve (before machine connection)
    3. On/Off Switch (for water filter)
    4. 1/4" quick connect to 3/8 male (connect to coffee machine)

    Managed to rig up a test rig in about 30 minutes tonight. The pump goes pretty well it auto senses and turns on when the rotary pump engages and is supplying enough line pressure for auto fill functions to work. Also when I open the water filter switch (got his free with some coffee parts, sink top cartridge filter) the pump wakes up and I can use the water to fill my rocket. Not 100% sure if the flow rate is enough seems to struggle at times to feed the 1 group machine I am testing. For the water filter seems fine but the flow rate is much less than mains pressure (probably a good thing as I didn't grab a flow restrictor). Rig worked quite well just need to tighten the 3/8" connection as it had a slight leak. Also should have bought a second switch so I can terminate the coffee machine connection when not connected to a machine.

    Eventually I will probably mount in a cart more for use as a testing rig for when I fix plumbed in machines. Will prob grab a Bror cart like Sullo and CoffeeChris, it is sitting on a wooden Ikea cart but this is not as sturdy as the Bror.

    Some rough pics below of the test setup, crappy light in the garage so not the best. Mods if this is too off topic I don't mind moving this to a new thread.

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    When I purchased the pump one of my main concerns was how loud it may be. So far I have found it to be relatively quiet. I dont know if it would matter but i do remember reading in the instructions that it mentioned laying it down? Dont quote me its getting late and its been a long day but i was not sure if this was a requirement or not. So far I haven't attached it to anything, however since getting the sides to my cart I now have a better idea of where i would like to place the pump. Id like it standing up and out of the way, im getting a small piece of timber which will hold this firm.

    I didnt read back t see if i had said it but i went for this pump for many reasons and one being the price, but the other one being the fact i was not intending on using it to plumb my machine. so when you said it might struggle a little i think you might need a accumulation tank. this fills up and you have line pressure you need from it and then the pump like it does auto senses it needs to fill the accumulation tank(which can be a number of lts and more) and does so. That way the pump is not on off all the time and not wearing out the pump.

    Please though if there is a plumber of someone with better knowledge speaking up and let me know if im wrong.

    cheers,

    chris

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  • roosterben
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    Little more hijacking of Sullos thread and info about the water dispenser pump, but does relate to pump/water options for Frankencarts.

    I ordered the water bottle dispenser pump and half a dozen 1/4" quick connect fittings;

    1. T Splitter (split pump to water filter and coffee machine)
    2. Non return valve (before machine connection)
    3. On/Off Switch (for water filter)
    4. 1/4" quick connect to 3/8 male (connect to coffee machine)

    Managed to rig up a test rig in about 30 minutes tonight. The pump goes pretty well it auto senses and turns on when the rotary pump engages and is supplying enough line pressure for auto fill functions to work. Also when I open the water filter switch (got his free with some coffee parts, sink top cartridge filter) the pump wakes up and I can use the water to fill my rocket. Not 100% sure if the flow rate is enough seems to struggle at times to feed the 1 group machine I am testing. For the water filter seems fine but the flow rate is much less than mains pressure (probably a good thing as I didn't grab a flow restrictor). Rig worked quite well just need to tighten the 3/8" connection as it had a slight leak. Also should have bought a second switch so I can terminate the coffee machine connection when not connected to a machine.

    Eventually I will probably mount in a cart more for use as a testing rig for when I fix plumbed in machines. Will prob grab a Bror cart like Sullo and CoffeeChris, it is sitting on a wooden Ikea cart but this is not as sturdy as the Bror.

    Some rough pics below of the test setup, crappy light in the garage so not the best. Mods if this is too off topic I don't mind moving this to a new thread.

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  • Jackster
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    Originally posted by Sullo View Post
    So frankencart v2 an v3 were put into action
    And here you can see Lucy the expobar Greta the grimac mia, Maria the nuova simonelli an recently adopted Bianca the Bezzera
    Naming my childeren is taxing on the memory!
    Is it Rhonda the Ryobi on the ground

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  • coffeechris
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    Originally posted by roosterben View Post
    Thanks Chris, based on the fact you used one and it seems decent and I have ordered one of those pumps. Hoping it is easy enough to link quick connect up to the correct female fitting to connect to a plumbed in machine. Will be a while but will report back when I receive it and have a play.

    I have a less sturdy Ikea trolley which has wheels on one end, but damn those one with the steel frame look good, don't think mine could be trusted with too much weight as the wheels are wooden. I might have get one and relegate the other to the workbench for coffee machines/projects I am working on.

    Sullo: that is nice collection of machine on the two carts! Up until recently I might have give you a run but I just sold two machines, need more coffee projects! The only thing I have lying around is Saeco Via Venezia but I am finding small machines really fiddly so not really motivated to work on it.
    Yeah I needed to get a different connection to my pump but it was a quick trip down to Reece plumbing and changed over in seconds. Hooked it up and ran straight away. I dip it in the Never fail water bottles and it works a treat.

    Seriously the trolley is sturdy, when I looked at it on IKEA website I wasn't sure. When I went and saw it at IKEA I bought straight away. Easy to assemble. As I said I took the middle shelve out and was not sure how it would go but it's fine. It would be more sturdy if I had the shelve in but the dipper of the pump is long so needed to take it out

    Cheers Chris

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  • roosterben
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    Thanks Chris, based on the fact you used one and it seems decent and I have ordered one of those pumps. Hoping it is easy enough to link quick connect up to the correct female fitting to connect to a plumbed in machine. Will be a while but will report back when I receive it and have a play.

    I have a less sturdy Ikea trolley which has wheels on one end, but damn those one with the steel frame look good, don't think mine could be trusted with too much weight as the wheels are wooden. I might have get one and relegate the other to the workbench for coffee machines/projects I am working on.

    Sullo: that is nice collection of machine on the two carts! Up until recently I might have give you a run but I just sold two machines, need more coffee projects! The only thing I have lying around is Saeco Via Venezia but I am finding small machines really fiddly so not really motivated to work on it.

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  • coffeechris
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    Originally posted by roosterben View Post
    Cool thread! Let me know how the pump works coffeechris, I spotted the same one and would like to be able to hook up plumbed machines in the garage when fixing/testing. Maybe even build a cart for home at some stage if I switch to a plumbed machine.
    The pump has worked well, I can't compare it too a Flojet as I've never had one..nor have I connected it to my machine.
    All that said it does exactly what I wanted it to do and provide enough pressure to rinse milk jugs. I wasn't prepared to buy a Flojet knowing what I was using it for.

    Easy to hook up and simple to use. The accumulation tank I have yet to fit too it. From what I know it just saves the pump kicking off in as often. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong?

    Cheers Chris

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  • roosterben
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    Cool thread! Let me know how the pump works coffeechris, I spotted the same one and would like to be able to hook up plumbed machines in the garage when fixing/testing. Maybe even build a cart for home at some stage if I switch to a plumbed machine.

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  • coffeechris
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    Purchased it on ebay and it was unnamed. But called bottle water dispenser.

    I actually searched FloJet and it was one of the first that came up.

    If you want more details let me know. Personally for the price you cant go wrong.

    Didnt come with a accumulator tank either. but for the price worth it

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  • level3ninja
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    What's the water pump you got?

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  • coffeechris
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    It's been a while and with all this stay at home I've been able to do a bit on my IKEA coffee cart. I have already used it for a few small events. I have just added sides too it by having a piece of colour bond cut to the size I want to wrap around.. I have taken out the middle shelve and wondered if it would test the integrity and max weight the bench could take but so far for the price I paid for this IKEA table I have to say how sturdy it is.

    I have made a hole for my milk jug rinser and was able to buy a water pump that wasn't a Flojet ( too expensive) that only cost me $70 and it works a treat. Im running my gs3 but not running it plumbed in as I also use it at home and have it no where I can plumb it in at home. So that was a simple choice for me. I have two never fail water bottles which pump water to the rinser and the other one for the water run off from the rinse.

    The best part about this coffee cart so far is I can fit it in the back of my Renault Mégane wagon. I don't need a bigger car nor a trailer or a van.
    The down side at the moment is I had a couple of gigs lines up and some corporate events through my girlfriends work to do but all have been postponed due to this virus.

    Cheers Chris

    Ps if I get time, which I'm sure I will I will set it up with pump, water bottles, machine and grinder on it to show what it looks like.

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  • Sullo
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    Put another layer of jarrah on this looks so much better
    News at six
    Pictures at eleven!

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  • Sullo
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    So sanded a bit an thought this needs something,

    Son suggested jarrah so one coat of stain think maybe more then danish oil?

    V3 will berosewood with maybe two pack epoxy clear finish

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  • Sullo
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    Totally agree re using proper cabinetry an joinery, i still have an use all the tools i stopped being paid to use 14years ago,
    Nothing in my mind beats proper cabinets, but for the money intended use ease of setup an intended beatings these trolleys will no doubt recieve plus two six foot idiots laying on table tops in garage playing dogems, a friend told me that happened tehir hard to beat.
    I have stained one top an do intend to make one with installed sides doors an drawers an get some of what i know inthere but with 5-7 machines, they do the job, one day we might get that kitchen we want an the coffee corner will be my best work

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  • robusto
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    Well done Sullo.
    I must admit that when I assembled a flat pack cabinet for my machines it was alien for me as years ago I would have designed and built it myself with solid real wood and proper joinery techniques.

    Assembly was quick and easy but it didn't come with a benchtop. And that gave me endless mental gymnastics. Had to be cheap, easy to make but also very strong to take the weight of the 2-group Grimac and sette grinder.

    13 ml plywood flexed. Chipboard and MDF needed to be about 40 ml thick at least.

    Finally I bought some solid 20 ml tongue and groove Tasmanian oak flooring and built the bench top from that.

    I ripped some wood to frame it and dropped in some melamine for the easy wipe surface.

    When we renovate the kitchen, that whole top will be replaced with a granite slab to match the kitchen benchtops.

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  • Sullo
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    three machines two grinders and still standing nicely!

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