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    Hi Snobbers, We (Swmbo and I) are relocating to Deniliquin and the coffee machine, like our fridges don't fit. I could renovate to make the coffee machine fit, or drill holes through benchtops, but not inclined to at this stage. My machine is an Orchestrale Nota which I like other than long warm up time (E61) and rotary knobs. Also the treasurer doesn't like it - won't use it, the only thing she needs me for!!!
    So the question is - which smallish, fast warm up time machines do you all like. I have been looking at the Profitec pro 300 and Bezzera BZ 10 and I think the Lelit Elizabeth??. Taste off course everything, but that aside we only ever make 2 flat whites at a time, no friends - watch the rush for coffees at Deni. Ease of use, Swmbo might make me a coffee ??? nah! Quiet, not terribly important. I like the thought of the PID and two boilers of the Profitec but reality for 4-6 coffees per day may be over-rated perhaps the Bezzera or an Expobar office what are your thoughts/ ideas.
    Thanks John.

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    Having owned a couple of Expobar Office's I would say the coffee quality is on par with E61 machines (similar coffee quality to my Rocket Giotto) and it is a quiet compact machine. If you get the volumetric version it would be easier for the treasurer to use.

    I would also throw the Breville BES920 dual boiler into the mix with 5 minute warm-up time and it is an easy to use machine.

    You may as well consider the Lelit Mara PL62S/T (although a PID on a HX machine is not really adding much value), this is a very compact machine.

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      The Lelit PL92T is a small dual boiler with relatively quick heat up. (Though no volumetric shots, only timed).
      https://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/...elit-elizabeth

      Originally posted by roosterben View Post
      I would also throw the Breville BES920 dual boiler into the mix with 5 minute warm-up time and it is an easy to use machine.
      There's lots to like about the 920. Even though it will let you pull shots after 3-5min it is far from warmed up, in reality it's more like 15 min before you should think about it.

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        Hi, roosterben thank you for your reply, good to hear from someone with experience of one of the machines I was looking at,You owned a couple of Office's, did you like them that much a spare was in order or did one break down? were they reliable over a period of time, or need a lot of maintenance - Keen to know. Hi to you too L3n,there are a couple of machines around the price of the Elizabeth, the problem for me is the Profitech is not much dearer so it has to come into play. I had thought of the Breville but a put off by its reputation. Yes I know you have one and like them,and I respect your opinion, but there are so many with problems, probably owners maintenance routine. Then there is the Office at not much more. If I had the spare dinero the Profitech would be the one, it covers all bases. Keen to hear from Profitech and BZ10 owners. On another day I might have signed off with "have a good one" or equivalent but today maybe Be safe be careful today tomorrow forever. John

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          John, I have a side hustle of fixing and refurbishing 2nd hand coffee machines. I think I have bought/sold three Expobar Office machines (all the semi-auto model) probably over the last 10 years (I haven't actually used the volumetric model). But each one once fixed and working I generally use for 2-3 weeks as my daily machine to make sure they are running without any leaks or issues. I really did like the Office as a machine, good steam pressure and comparable shots to the Rocket Giotto which is my daily driver. The pump was quieter than the Rocket and I just found the Office a nice no fuss HX machine and in a super compact footprint. Looks wise you can't beat full stainless steel E61 for bling but in a blind taste test I don't think you could taste the difference. From what I read while it is not E61, Expobar based their group design of the E61 so it effectively works in a similar fashion.

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          • #6
            Hi again, roosterben thank you so much,just what I wanted. Very glad and thankful for taking up your time. John

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            • #7
              This just popped up John
              https://coffeesnobs.com.au/coffee-ha...a-bz-10-a.html

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              • #8
                Hi again L3n, you won't leave me in peace will you. Just back from a Pub Dinner,what else do you do in this weather, scrolled down to for sale items saw bz10 was interested, scrolled further came to your post. should I laugh-cry or just write the cheque? Thanks for the heads up. John

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