Originally posted by Mal link=1210849073/15#19 date=1211212230
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Hmm true... the filth factor is still there, no matter what. Its very disturbing though.
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Eeeeeeeewwwwww ... I feel violated.
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The coffee cafe industry in the US has some major differences/orientations to what youll find in Oz. Most of these are driven by economic factors. The drive up window is a perfect case in point.Originally posted by Menace link=1210849073/0#6 date=1210896150I think my favourite part was definitely (as 30in30 put it) Bareeeeesta lol
and drive through coffee...
Unlike Australia with its year round warm/mild climate where most of the population resides, a huge part of the US population lives in areas where the winter climate is well below freezing for months at a time. Add in on top of this the large percentage of US workers that drive rather than take mass transit and the fact that the average work week for a US worker is a third longer than their counterpart in Australia and you begin to see the driving forces behind the popularity of drive up windows in the US.
While at the recent SCAA conference I was involved in an interesting discussion with someone who was planning on opening a coffee house in a northern city. Also involved in the discussion were several people who were very highly placed with-in SCAA and the industry. The net result of the conversation was that there were several different types of cafes and that your location and facilities would determine if they could succeed or not. Now while on the surface this seems incredibly simple and down right obvious it is neither to all too many people. Especially when you start getting into details.
The main types of cafes here in the US are ones:- Located inside of a larger structure (e.g. Office building, Hospital, Dormitory/student center, or a mall).
- Located on the walking route between where people park their car/get off mass transit and their work place.
- Located on the driving route between home and work.
- Located in a residential neighborhood.
- Located in an Entertainment/Dining district/area.
Each of these different types of locations caters to a different set of customers during different hours.
If you are planning on being one of the cafes located along a main route that people take to work each morning here it is almost a requirement for your cafe to succeed that you have a drive up window. In these types of establishments that rely on the morning rush 2/3rds of their business is done at the drive up window. If you dont have a drive up facility you dont get that business as with the plethora of cafe choices out there people will simply go to a competitor that has a drive up window.
Here in the US coffee houses are rarely a destination unto themselves. People generally stop at one thats along the way to where theyre going or stop at one that is in the area of their destination. The main exception to this is the local neighborhood cafe. However, due to the limited number of customers in most areas (its a residential neighborhood after-all), these types of cafes are rarely big earners.
Java "More than you wanted to know about drive-ups" phile
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Spose I could put in the "Off Topic" category but then, even there its not going to be any betterOriginally posted by YeeZa link=1210849073/15#18 date=1211194858I would debate that this link should even be allowed to be posted in the "General COFFEE related"
Brutal. YUK - I cant stop thinking about it.
:P
Mal.
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I would debate that this link should even be allowed to be posted in the "General COFFEE related"
Brutal. YUK - I cant stop thinking about it.
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thats just embarrassing - at 2:40, I love the "No fat Vanilla latte" (my butt).... "Would you like some coffee with that creamy, syrupy slop?" You could honestly serve up the water from my drip tray in my Minore and add all that rubbish in it and make it taste the same. Straight up eeembarrassing.
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I didnt Like that video at all! Only because the way the coffee was made made me sick :P
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oh dear lord....
Loved the palest of pale crema on those espresso shots
Might explain why we get so many American tourists through asking for percolated coffee (which we clearly dont make) as "NZ Kawfee is too strong!"
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for vanilla coffee related talk - Ive started a new thread.
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1210947403
Post if youre interested to know / have some answers!
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I would also like to know if this works. Sorry to go off topic a bit...Originally posted by Menace link=1210849073/0#6 date=1210896150Really?????? Vanilla pods are my 2nd most favourite thing (behind you know what) - does this actually work!?Originally posted by Julsajet link=1210849073/0#3 date=1210851182If you want vanilla add a pod to the beans as they de-gas. Nice subtle flavour. I cant stand sugar syrups - waaay to sweet.
(should probably start another thread if were going to discuss this though...)
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I nearly cried when I saw how she scooped the top of the milk onto it, and had the gross indecency to call it a latte? >
Truck service stations do that with their so called "machines", and pretend its a cappuccino. :
Bareeeeesta. WTH? :-?
-Linda
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They should be sued by honest baristas for the total and gross misuse of the name. [smiley=angry.gif]
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I thought the spooning of the froth was a nice touch
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I cant belive they call that coffee. The espresso looked thin and watery, and dont they know how to free pour a latte.
Makes you want to jump the counter and show them how to do it
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