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  • cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

    hi, first time poster long time reader. i was wondereing if anyone can shed some light on what exactly is a cataldo, because i believe there is some confusion in the newcastle cafe district. when i enquired as to what a cataldo is, i was informed i might know it better as a piccolo latte, but i have since been told i may have actually been drinking a ristretto! please help.

  • #2
    Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

    Huh? Maybe a piccolo latte with a ristretto base. Im not in the cafe scene so dont really know the lingo that goes on. Have heard cataldo being thrown around, but no dice, sorry.

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    • #3
      Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

      ristretto = restricted shot
      piccolo latte = small latte (90-120ml) - could be made on an espresso or a ristretto base...

      pretty obvious difference - one has milk in it

      Ive never heard of a cataldo.

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      • #4
        Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

        Google only turns up a surname and a town in Idaho.

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        • #5
          Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

          come to think of it, Ive never heard of it.... :-[

          I was thinking of something else  :

          edit: oh I see Im not the only one :-/

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          • #6
            Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

            maybe its spanish or sumthin?

            Google tends to be a bit unsuitable for foreign non-english words.

            Just watched this good russian movie, "Shik" on SBS last night (aka. "The Suit" or "Chic" in English countries). It was surprisingly good, and had the same feel/themes of Naguib Mahfouzs "Midaq Alley" - but in a eastern european setting instead.

            Anyway, I couldnt find anything on google. Searches were totally out of whack.

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            • #7
              Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

              Havent heard of it either...though that wouldnt be a surprise.

              Are you sure it wasnt "caldo"?  In Italian, a machiatto caldo would mean to add a little hot milk.

              Welcome to CS btw.

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              • #8
                Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

                Cortado?

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortado
                http://coffeegeek.com/forums/members/recipes/17533

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                • #9
                  Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

                  Originally posted by rice link=1220920969/0#7 date=1220926285
                  Cortado?

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortado
                  http://coffeegeek.com/forums/members/recipes/17533
                  Ahh, that makes more sense. So basically, equal parts espresso and milk - but the milk shouldnt have any microfoam at all?

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                  • #10
                    Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

                    Hmm so straight outta tha jug milk. I think Renzo hits those up sometimes. Ive seen him pull a double and then splash some milk in.

                    But in those links is says a mini capp? I dont know haha. Either way itd still taste like coffee with milk to me : Ill get there on day haha

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                    • #11
                      Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

                      thanks for all your responses, and the warm welcome to cs! i have made and consumed 3 cortados this morning since i posted the original question, and i didnt even know it! im obviously a greenbean. i will inform the local cafe they are serving cortados disguised as cataldos. but a cortado by any other name......

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                      • #12
                        Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

                        There is a cafe in Newcastle that serves what they call a Cataldo. If you order one you get a Piccolo Latte. Im fairly sure I was told is was a Spanish... but that was a couple of years ago.

                        The cafe Im talking about is opposite Newcastle beach, I wont mention the name in case it is against a posting law Ive misundertstood. The mystery name sounds kind of Spanish.

                        Good to see another Novacastrian Coffeesnob, there will be almost enough of us for an official get together.

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                        • #13
                          Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

                          its possibly a newcastle thing, cause there is nothing about it in a google search relating to coffee. im guessing someone misspelled cortado, and everyone else copied!

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                          • #14
                            Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

                            There are at least 3 cafes in Newcastle that serve Cataldos - Estobar, Goldbergs and Longbench. It shouldnt be against the law to post their names, were not saying theyre bad, they actually all make good coffee. I think its our duty as coffee connisseurs to let them know theyve got it wrong though

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                            • #15
                              Re: cataldo, ristretto, piccolo latte. difference?

                              Wooo another from newwy right here :P (well, by weekend. By week I am a dweller of the gong)

                              not a fan on longbench tbh. My regular was suspension espresso in izzo, but thats really gone down hill lately...

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