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  • #16
    Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

    Thanks Mal, I am already enjoying the journey.

    TG - I have read some of your popper mod posts before so I have a number of ideas. I will keep it in mind though once Ive got a few more roasts under my belt.
    I was maybe a bit too adventurous for my first - blowing a fan real close to the popper; moving it away when I was worried about not hitting second crack at all; stirring beans at the start; covering the chimney when worried about it being too cold from the fan; sitting the popper on a clothes horse for good air supply to the base...

    Stay tuned for more roasting posts though!

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    • #17
      Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

      mmm give away roma?

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      • #18
        Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

        No, shes merely gone back to her original home.

        Was always going to be a loaner...

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        • #19
          Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

          Tried my fitrst roast today in a popper....not quite sure if I have done it right ???

          The lovely Kirby Berlin gave me a couple hundred grams of her special 28 day import so I thought an opportune time to break out the popper.

          OK, here goe:

          Turn popper on, get it warm. Drop beans in, first crack just on 2 minutes, settled slightly by 3 minutes, started second crack at 4 minutes and seemed to be an awfeully dark roast.

          Hell of a lot of smoke, so killed the roast and transferrred stright into bowl and started turning it to cool.

          Let the beans to sit for about helf hour before moving to vacuum bag, but looking at them they seem to be a little oily.

          Did I:

          Overroast them?

          Not roast them enough? 4 minutes in total seems awfully short...

          Thoguht?

          Cheers
          Andrew

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          • #20
            Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

            The only way to tell if they are roasted the way YOU like them, is to try the coffee from them.

            I loved my first popper roasts, but soon wanted to slow the whole process down by a factor or 2 or 3, both for the development of flavour, and for control issues.

            A search here and on the web soon showed that there were a variety of ways: popper modifications, a corretto, or buy a coffee roaster. The size of the possible roast was also an influence.

            In the end I bought a Gene Café, and remain much happier with my own roasts than most commercial roasts, and I have a much wider variety of beans from which to choose--thanks to the Bean Bay.

            Let us know how the coffee tastes, and how you go.

            Greg

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            • #21
              Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

              Originally posted by 353D343A2D2D2A36580 link=1241318448/18#18 date=1242472007
              Tried my fitrst roast today in a popper....not quite sure if I have done it right ???
              Good to hear youve done one.

              I did my second the other night, two batches of guatemala huehuetenango (thanks again andy).

              I dont let my popper warm up before the first one. Dont see the need - but thats just me. I have a fan blowing on it all the time, and I do it at night when the ambient air temp is cooler.

              A quick roast like that doesnt surprise me though.

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              • #22
                Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                Originally posted by 0F363C3C303330133E2B2B3A5F0 link=1241318448/20#20 date=1242544987
                I have a fan blowing on it all the time, and I do it at night when the ambient air temp is cooler.
                Thats what i have been doing , and i have actually had a few 15min roasts in my popper. i tried some of my 6 day old Sumatran Indo last night, and it was pretty good, it actually had a choclatey/sweet flavour as it was described to me when i bought it green.
                I usually leave it for 30secs to 1min after 2nd crack, as i put them into the cooling bowl they are still crackling. I still haven`t had any smoke from my roasts, is this normal??
                I now have a s/s mug as a chimney.
                Thanks for the idea.

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                • #23
                  Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                  No worries - but im pretty sure I saw it somewhere here previously so I cant take all the credit.

                  Yeah, mine have been crackling when I tip them out too. Ive always thought this was a good thing as I knew I hadnt gone all the way through 2nd crack.

                  I dont know about the smoke - I havent got any noticeable smoke either. It could be because of the fan.

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                  • #24
                    Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                    The amount of smoke you get will also depend on the qty of beans you are roasting each time.
                    I do 500gm batches in my correto and yes there is a considerable amount of smoke but the fan cooling the heat gun helps to dissipate it quickly.

                    Mal

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                    • #25
                      Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                      Not surprised at the "bitterness" from the Madikeri in a popper - I did two roasts from that batch - one undrinkable and the other very harsh, bitter and with an aftertaste that hung around well after its invitation had expired. For the third attempt I took them to just over 1st crack (214C) and upped the grind considerably. Not my favourite bean so far, must say - has anyone with a temperature variable roaster got good results ?

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                      • #26
                        Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                        Its great fun isnt it!
                        I learnt a big lesson from the experts around here, and it was so helpful, and its prolly a good idea for anyone starting to roast their own....sacrifice one batch of beans, say 80g for the popper or 150g for a Coretto, roast till it is almost charcoal, you will learn to identify the FC, then RFC, then SC.....then charcoal! it will help you hear what the second crack sounds like in relation to FC, and you will learn how long it can go for too, !BE CAREFUL NOT TO START A FIRE! (They will burst into flames if left too long

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                        • #27
                          Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                          Originally posted by 52567069696C73646B050 link=1241318448/25#25 date=1244184559
                          sacrifice one batch of beans
                          I disagree with this approach.
                          If you read here what to expect theres no need to sacrifice a batch.
                          My first popper batch went as expected.
                          I stopped about 30 seconds into SC.

                          Why did I need to go further and see the batch ruined?
                          I hope to never see that happen.

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                          • #28
                            Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                            Fair nuff TG,

                            Ill still recommend that new-starters do this though as it is a quick and dirty way to gain a first hand understanding of all of the milestones through a roast and the tell-tales that go along with that. Much easier to experience all of that first hand in my view rather than have to keep going back and forth trying to squeeze out explanations for everything second hand.... 8-)

                            Mal.

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                            • #29
                              Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                              You will learn about FC without have to charcoal a roast.
                              Youll hear RFC without having to charcoal a roast.
                              If you are attentive enough youll hear SC without having to charcoal a roast.
                              Go a bit further and youll hear RSC without having to charcoal a roast.

                              I still dont understand whats to be learned from pushing it any further.
                              I know if I do, it will turn to undrinkable charcoal.
                              I dont need to see it with my own eyes to believe it.

                              Morbid curiosity may make me do it one day to see if the beans will indeed burst into flames as stated above. But other than that...why bother?

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                              • #30
                                Re: First popper roast - India Madikeri A

                                I agree TG. You only get so many beans for your dollar. So why waste them unnecessarily?

                                I heard FC and SC in my first ever roast. I guessed it was SC, and was right. Plus, SC was easier to hear when I turned off the popper and poured the beans into a bowl (a few random snaps).

                                About 30 mins ago I roasted some of the DRC Matadi.
                                I did three roasts of increasing size. Just because I thought I could. The last was 1.5 of the standard breville scoops. I would guess 100-130g. I base that on getting a full 250g bag out of the 3 roasts and the last was the biggest.

                                Took all three to the first snaps of SC. No worries 8-)

                                No charcoal for me!

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