Re: Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi bean advice
Hi Java ,
When using my corretto, I just write up a profile and track it with the temp probe , manually.
I agree with you about hitting the beans too hard with heat and hi fan speed. Generally I run the HG at sp 11 but I am increasing temp as required up to 140* in the bin HG set at 450* approx ..... to maintain profile points I will use more heat & speed , or point a hand held second HG in the bin.
With my corrett0 if I set at 450* the roast would probably only get to 170-180..... I guess each corretto is slightly different as to how it reacts.
I do think your points are valid and HGs can often be too harsh on the beans.
cheers
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Re: Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi bean advice
Greg/Hotshod, if youre out there...
Ive been following this thread and noticed you have the same heat gun as mine - the digital Bosch.
I never get tipping with my roasts in my Corretto as I always use the low fan speed setting II up until the start of FC. I believe this provides for a more gentle roast to FC/RFC and avoids tipping and more evenly roasts a bean throughout (not to be confused with a more even roast of a batch, Im just talking about cooking thru a bean). Now I dont have this bean in my collection but did have a Sulawesi from last years Beanbay and again I never got tipping.
Ive noticed that some are varying the temp thru to FC but when I roast I just set one temp (450) at the low fan speed II until FC/RFC. I then drop the temp and increase the fan speed to III for the remainder of the roast.
Id be interested to know why youre varying the temp thru FC - is it to alter the profile/taste or just to avoid tipping?
Javabeen.
Now I dont have this bean in my collection but
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Re: Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi bean advice
Im really glad that I read through the posts here before starting out on this bean! The roast was a bit uneven, as others have stated, and almost no chaff - quite different from the Ethiopians and Brazilians I have roasted previously. I was pretty unsure about the whole thing, but I seem to have similar results to others - so hopefully the wisdom of the crowd pays off.
Hotshod - I...er... :
borrowed your profile, but pulled it just as SC was starting up.
Now to rest up and see how it tastes in a few days time.
Thanks to Hotshod Mal and Stan for all the helpful comments!
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Re: Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi bean advice
Me too.... 8-)Originally posted by 6A6C7E70756C77190 link=1250412269/28#28 date=1252567520P.S: I really like this bean.
Mal.
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Mal: From my lot, the lighter beans have more sweetness than the darker beans. However, the lighter beans have more earthyness, which i dont really like, than the darker beans. My goal for next time is to maximise the sweetness and minimise the earthyness.
P.S: I really like this bean.
Tony.
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Re: Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi bean advice
Dont worry about the uneven appearance of the roasted bean batch with this variety.... 8-)
It does roast quite unevenly but not as unevenly as some. Just let your palate be the guide and go with that. Depending on how you intend brewing the finished result, you can pull the roast before Second Crack(SC) even starts at around CS7-8 for various manual brew methods or allow it to coast gently into SC up to a max. of CS9-10 for espresso.
This bean seems to give the home-roaster plenty of options based purely on roast depth alone so try experimenting a bit with this and then see how you like it best. It will still produce an uneven batch colour which ever way you go.....
Mal.
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I have roasted this bean several times. I have found that if I use a very slow ramp up with the heat gun as far away as I can get it with the drill stand. When the temperature drops down I let it get down to about 12deg a min and then try to maintain this until FC. FC usually comes about 13-14 minutes.
I then drop the heat back and finish around the 18- 20min. mark just on or at SC. I find this reduces the tipping but you may still get an uneven roast. This gives me a very rounded flavour in the cup with very strong choc aftertaste that makes you want another cup. The roast colour is generally about CS 9 but as I said a very uneven bean to roast. Looks are one thing but the taste of the coffee from this bean is greatm regardless of the uneven roast.
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Hmmm~~this is a very strange bean to roast. I roasted my 3rd patch yesterday. The roast was very uneven. The strange thing was some of the beans were well roasted, some of them were under roasted. The "well roasted" beans tasted very sweet. However, the "under roasted" bean tasted very earthy~~~ Im just thinking how can i improve next time.
To be hornest, it tastes so good when it is well roasted.
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Did a roast yesterday to just on first snaps of 2C, bit uneven but expected after reading comments from other roasters.
Just cupped it after 24 hours, dry aroma had citrus acidity, broke the crust and a rich choc/winey aroma was apparent, lovely smooth body and rich mouthfeel which got better and better as it cooled down. It has left a pleasant lingering aftertaste on the roof of my mouth, will rest five days now before trying as espresso.

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Got my Sulawesi Tana a week ago and typically, just went straight for the roasting beast! Got to fc at the nine minute mark, raised the heat gun to ease off the heat then stopped at sc on 15minutes. My bread maker is direct wired so it fairly flings the beans about resulting in this case, an even roast with only the odd slightly lighter bean. End result at about CS9.
Tried it today and are impressed, good acidity that goes realy well in milk with a longggg aftertaste. Seems even punchier than the Sulawesi Rante- which I also realy enjoyed.
Cant wait to take the advice of this thread and further experiment!
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Hi Tony
My second roast was Ok but Ill be running it even slower next time ..... it went like this
3 min to 60*
6 min 105*
7 min 120
8 min 140
9 min 160
10min 175
11..... 185
12..... 195 ....... FC 198* @ 12-25
13......199
14......202
15.....205
16.....210
17.....213.........SC 214@ 17-45
Pulled it @ 18-10
Next batch will be a bit slower between 120 and 190 .... probably just stick to 15*/min
Let me know how you get on ...!!!
Greg
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HS: NA~~I didnt have tipping for my last patch~~Will take your advice next time.
what is your roasting profile?
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Re: Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi bean advice
Did you get any tipping with this roast ??Originally posted by 323426282D342F410 link=1250412269/19#19 date=1251116573Preheated my breadmaker to 100 oC then dumped the beans into the breadmaker. Temperture dropped to 51 oC. Than increased 20oC / min until FC.
My intention was to approach next roast with this bean a lot slower than first time.
GB
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Re: Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi bean advice
I roasted 300 grams~~
Preheated my breadmaker to 100 oC then dumped the beans into the breadmaker. Temperture dropped to 51 oC. Than increased 20oC / min until FC. SC came 4 mins after FC.
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Re: Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi bean advice
Hi TonyOriginally posted by 5F594B454059422C0 link=1250412269/16#16 date=1251092785The roast was very uneven (any idea how to improve the roast?).
You might have noticed my first comments here were the roast was inconsistant in colour.
I did that 2nd roast on the 16/8 and have since tried it , and surprisingly its not too bad at 8 days .....
One observation is I have had to tighten up my grinder by about 3 or 4 clicks for this bean.
What was your roast method , profile and quantity ?
Greg
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