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  • Stan
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    I to thought I had gone to dark (CS10) with this bean in my second roast. However I took it to CS11 and it improved the flavour in the cup substantially. I was roasting with a popper so I cannot tell you the temp. I have the components of a corretto but the wife is going to use it for baking bread - where would she get this idea with a coffee roaster :.

    I am looking forward to giving this bean a longer roasting time as I expect it will bring out more flavours and improve the intensity of the flavours. It appears to be a versatile bean.

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  • stuartgrant
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    Well, I just tried the Capricorn Coast that I roasted 2 days ago.

    Keeping in mind that this is the first SO Ive (knowingly) drunk, and that it was my first roast (I think I over-roasted a little), AND that my equipment is not going to get the best out of any beans... (is that enough disclaimers?)

    I was very happy with it! I got a smallish double shot (~40mL) from a largish double dose (20g) and made a flat white with half the shot. First thing I noticed was the large amount of crema! I very rarely get much, as Im using a cheap boiler-type espresso machine (read: 3.5 bar), but this was great. The machine takes longer than usual (as youd expect) to express the shot (up to 60 seconds), but with the lower pressure, its very hard to over-extract or burn the coffee. Anyway... enough about my poor excuse for a home espresso setup!

    Im not an espresso (ie. short black) drinker, but I thought it would be educational to give it a go this time. I didnt get much education, however. Just too intense for my palate to be able to pick out the constituent flavours. Perhaps if Id pulled a longer shot rather than this pseudo-ristretto...

    The flat white was much more enlightening. First impression was that it tasted FRESH! Duh. But seriously, Ive been drinking locally-roasted coffee for a year or so now (what an improvement that was!) but this was just insane. In your face beany/nutty/chocy goodness! Yum. Then I noticed a really distinctive flavour that took me ages to put my finger on. I recognised it straight away as resulting from the very dark roast I ended up with - Id been worried that it was to dark and that Id get burnt flavours. Instead, I got this elusive bitter-chocolate flavour which by the end of cup I adored. Like bakers chocolate; the unsweetened stuff. Also in the mix were some nutty flavours, and a strange, subtle fruity flavour that I likened to strawberry. Weird.

    Overall it was very enjoyable. After smelling the roasted beans (slightly burned?) I wasnt expecting much, but I was pleasantly surprised. Im looking forward to tasting the changes in the beans over the next week. Or 3-4 days, I should say; I only roasted 120g!

    Cheers
    Stuart.

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  • christopher
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    Afetr looking at the MT bin 549 this morning im not sure if i will roast different untill i drink it some as it is looking nice at about CS10 or just under. The aroma is very fruity, kind of like fruit cake, im loving it. Cant wait to try it over the next few days, then i might try a different roast profile to see the different tastes.

    I would love to try the Capricorn Coast as i live in FNQ in a small place called Aurukun so it would be nice to try something from my area. I will keep an eye out on beanbay for some of it.

    Chris

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  • Dimal
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    Dont worry about the initial aroma Stuart, things will settle down as the beans rest but that first hit of the aroma as you grind the beans..... Will knock your socks off 8-),

    Mal.

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  • stuartgrant
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    Thanks Sean and Chris!

    The beans were Capricorn Coast from Far North QLD. Id never heard of them prior to getting my starter pack, but Ive read google results which make them sound pretty good. Mild like most Australians, but good.

    Funnily enough I think I roasted mine a little too much so Ill be doing the opposite to what you suggested, Chris, by roasting the next lot slightly less. Should be good for an experiment.

    As an aside, the beans pictured kind of smell a bit burned ... I told my wife that they take a while to mellow out after roasting but does this actually apply to the aroma? They dont look burned, as you can see, but Im hoping the aroma improves in the next 48 hours as well as the flavour.

    Cheers
    Stuart.

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  • scooter
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    Looks grouse, Stuart. /thumbs up/


    Cheers................Sean

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  • christopher
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    Thats a nice looking roast Stuart. Cant wait to hear how it tastes.

    What bean was it? I just roasted 250g of the Australian MTE Bin 549 this afternoon and the smell was fantastic, kind of sweet. I dont think i roasted it dark enough so tomorrow im going to do another roast a bit darker so i can try them to see the different flavours i get from different roasts. Havnt tried it yet but im sure tomorrow i will.

    Chris

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  • stuartgrant
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    Well I posted somewhere else this morning that Id received my starter pack and was itching to roast some of it, pending the completion of a Corretto roaster my friend and I are making.

    But I couldnt resist jumping the gun, as it turns out.

    I mounted the heat gun on a bottle capper (a la the original Corretto) and stirred the beans manually in a sieve-in-a-dish. Just 120g as a test run. I also chose what I assumed to be the most "expendable" origin in my starter pack (the Australian! How unpatriotic...) in case I stuffed it up. After all, this was also my first roast.

    Roast profile was hard to pick (see below), but times were: 8:30 - first noises of first crack, 10:30 - last? noises of first crack (hard to tell), 14:30 - second crack seemed to start, 15:30 - heat off (started smoking during last 10 seconds).

    Roast is quite dark - that final 20-30 seconds really made a difference. Ill know to cut it a bit earlier next time.

    I started with 120g, spilt 5g and ended up with 94g = 18% loss. This is on the high side of normal from what Ive read...

    Other observations:

    - Beginning of first crack was fun to hear... but there was only one crack every couple of seconds for a couple of minutes. I was expecting a burst of cracks, for some reason. Hence, second crack was hard to pick. There was definitely a significant increase in cracks (sharper in sound than first crack) around 15:00, but there were some before this too. I guess judging 1st and 2nd crack is something which comes with experience...? Or is it also bean variety-related?

    - I know the HG spits out 600ºC air, but I was still impressed as to how quickly the bean colour changed! Must be the beans - they just WANT to be par-burned. Im sure wheat/rice/whatever wouldnt brown as quickly as coffee beans. Not sure if thats a profound observation or just stating the obvious...

    - Some metal sieves have plastic connecting the handle to the body which you wont be able to see until its melted. Sorry, wifey.

    - Coffee beans are difficult to photograph. There are wild variations in the colour of the same beans depending on light/flash/etc. Oh well.

    Photos:

    My set up (temporary):



    Before, parts 1 and 2:




    After, parts 1 and 2:




    Thanks for reading.
    Cheers
    Stuart.

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  • martybean
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    Nice roast Chris, I agree with Mal try sampling your roast at different days, I do it, and sometimes you get this taste like you are drinking straw.Sometimes you can be suprised that the coffee is quite good

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  • Dimal
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    Originally posted by 2muchcoffeeman link=1211886348/0#3 date=1211929903
    Originally posted by christopher link=1211886348/0#2 date=1211926652
    This morning i opened the bag for a smell. Im very happy with the smell, so now the hard bit is waiting 10 days and not drinking it all before then.

    Going to roast another batch or two this afternoon just incase i do start drinking it early as im not good at waiting.
    No need to wait 10 days Chris. I reckon the pre-roast blend peaks around day 4

    C
    Actually Chris,

    If I was you Id start sampling the roast after only a couple of days, even just one day and then see how the flavour profile develops as each day passes. You may find that you prefer brews made with beans that have rested for a much shorter period, after all, were all different and its interesting in itself just to note how the coffee changes with time.

    All the best mate ,
    Mal.

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  • redzone121
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    Originally posted by christopher link=1211886348/0#2 date=1211926652
    This morning i opened the bag for a smell. Im very happy with the smell, so now the hard bit is waiting 10 days and not drinking it all before then.

    Going to roast another batch or two this afternoon just incase i do start drinking it early as im not good at waiting.
    If you can do 5 days your a better man than me ;D

    It took me over 100 roasts to leave a roast for a minimum of 3 days, but now we are enjoying some 12 days + 8-)

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  • redzone121
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    Originally posted by melinda link=1211886348/0#0 date=1211886345
    My Gene turned up today (Thanks again Chris), so as soon as school finished i rushed home to try my first roast. I think i even beat the kids out i left so fast.
    The bean i roasted was a 300g mix of 4 unknown beans that Chris sent with the Gene. I roasted them to the instructions that Chris sent with them and im very happy with how it came out.
    I couldnt help myself and pulled a shot not long after they cooled. Im not as good at tasting flavours as some of the CSers but i think i tasted a bit of a chocolate taste and also maybe a berry taste. My wife ( who i just realised im logged in as, im Christopher on the forums) also thought she could taste a berry flavour.
    Well done, Enjoy the ride, its gets better and better 8-)

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  • christopher
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    Nice, now i dont have to wait as long. Cant wait too see how it taste. Will post my thoughts as soon as i try it.

    As for the stock of green beans i have 5.5kg right now. But come next beanbay i am stocking up on different beans as there are so many that i want to try ;D

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  • greenman
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    Welcome to the wonderful world of home roasting Chris, you are now totally hooked and the need to expand your green bean stash will be insatiable, always got to try new varieties and origins.
    Ive done about 70 roasts now and still totally intrigued by the whole process.
    happy roasting.....................gm

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  • TC
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    Originally posted by christopher link=1211886348/0#2 date=1211926652
    This morning i opened the bag for a smell. Im very happy with the smell, so now the hard bit is waiting 10 days and not drinking it all before then.

    Going to roast another batch or two this afternoon just incase i do start drinking it early as im not good at waiting.
    No need to wait 10 days Chris. I reckon the pre-roast blend peaks around day 4

    C

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