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  • #16
    I have a Behmor from mid 2012 and I love it. Recently I bought one for my brother for Christmas - latest build - he also loves his. It has the 'new' style basket which has a different type of clasp for closing the basket. He hasn't had any problems with his roaster at all, however the new style basket does concern me a bit as the mechanism for closing it doesn't appear very secure compared to the old one. I wonder if this was part of the problem with PLMS's beans falling out of the basket?

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    • #17
      I'm not blaming anybody but myself for this. I reckon the Behmor is a wonderful machine and does a fantastic job at a realistic price. Stuff like this can happen with other devices - a stuck piece of bread in a toaster, a cake that runs over in the oven, etc, etc. And we all live with that. I just got unlucky - I was looking last night and I can't even see how the drum could operate with a gap big enough for the beans to fall out. But it did. In the end it wouldn't matter if the machine turned into a ball of flame anyway - I roast outside where there's minimal chance of creating a serious fire.

      They've sold a gazillion of these things now, so I'd expect that if it was a big problem then people all over the world would be firing up. He he...

      I did a couple of roasts last night and she's roasting better than ever now that I've cleaned the window for the light properly! All good.

      PL

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Yelta View Post
        If an incident such as this occurred in an industrial setting all units would be immediately withdrawn and not put back into service until they had been made safe, if they could not be rectified an alternative would be found.
        Given that we've had two commercial coffee roaster fires this year in Canberra, accidents happen.
        You can't feasibly make everything completely fool proof, and I wouldn't want to live in a world for designed for fools.

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        • #19
          I've expressed an informed opinion guys, thought it may have been of some value, take it for what it's worth, reject it or if Andy so desires delete the post, I really don't mind.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by taco View Post
            Given that we've had two commercial coffee roaster fires this year in Canberra, accidents happen.
            You can't feasibly make everything completely fool proof, and I wouldn't want to live in a world for designed for fools.
            The ALARP principle is often applied in engineering. It requires that risk be reduced to a point where any further reduction would incur an expense grossly disproportionate to the benefit. (That is not to say that the residual risk is always tolerable either).

            Is it reasonable to suggest additional risk mitigation could be cost effectively acheived in the design, given the number of units sold? I guess it depends on your measure of the risk

            Does having a person watch the unit whilst in use actually prevent a fire, or just ensure it's detection?

            Not suggesting the product is unsafe, just presenting one perspective.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Yelta View Post
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              If an incident such as this occurred in an industrial setting all units would be immediately withdrawn and not put back into service until they had been made safe, if they could not be rectified an alternative would be found..
              The machine is not faulty; it's designed to cope with fires when dealt with correctly (power off, don't open door). It's not an automatic machine, nor is a blowtorch or deep-fryer for instance, both of which will start fires if used contrary to instruction.

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