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  • pgseye
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    Originally posted by DesigningByCoffee View Post
    Reckon so too

    Thanks Everyone,

    Yes, it's sounding like that.

    I reckon I'll try the P3 at 1C tweak and see how that goes.

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  • DesigningByCoffee
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    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
    Looks like Paul has tried the finer grind approach so maybe his roasts are underdeveloped then.
    Reckon so too

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  • LeroyC
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    Originally posted by DesigningByCoffee View Post
    A hotter brew temp / finer grind / slower pour can help to tame a lighter roast…
    Looks like Paul has tried the finer grind approach so maybe his roasts are underdeveloped then.

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  • DesigningByCoffee
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    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
    Anyone know whether 94deg is too hot for espresso with lighter roasts?
    A hotter brew temp / finer grind / slower pour can help to tame a lighter roast…

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  • LeroyC
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    Originally posted by saeco_user View Post
    I read somewhere once that a simple check with underextracted espresso was to taste / test the same roast as a drip coffee.
    If this also underextracts than the problem is likely to be with underdeveloped roasts and not some other problem.
    I'll look up and try to find the source.
    That would make sense I guess.

    Anyone know whether 94deg is too hot for espresso with lighter roasts?

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  • LeroyC
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    Originally posted by JojoS View Post
    Yes I am using a 220-240v model running at 220v here in Hong Kong with an SSVR mod. I should have pointed out that OP's charge weight is 300 grams and that is why I suggested to use P3 manual instead of P2.
    Yeah I got ya now. I'm very much in 250g batch mode so it's good to know that as I try more bigger batches I should probably use P3 at 1C. I really must get that BT probe set up so I've got better feedback on roast progression.

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  • saeco_user
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    I read somewhere once that a simple check with underextracted espresso was to taste / test the same roast as a drip coffee.
    If this also underextracts than the problem is likely to be with underdeveloped roasts and not some other problem.
    I'll look up and try to find the source.

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  • JojoS
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    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
    Are you using the 230v model? I thought you were using the 110v. Is it you that has done the SSR mod?
    Yes I am using a 220-240v model running at 220v here in Hong Kong with an SSVR mod. I should have pointed out that OP's charge weight is 300 grams and that is why I suggested to use P3 manual instead of P2.

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  • Alexpid
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    The last roast I did on my behmor, I combined the two. I did p1 manual with double drum speed until 1.crack. Then p2 until 1:00 min left where I pushed p3 to prevent stalling the roast

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  • LeroyC
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    Originally posted by artman View Post
    I have noticed with a bean temp probe that hitting P2 at 1C usually causes a stall in rate of rise. This is with 450-500g roasts, so with a smaller batch would probably be ok.

    You could use P3 as suggested by others.

    Cheers
    That's good to know. To be clear Andy and Joe recommend P2 at 1C on a 200g batch so P3 probably is better for batches of >300g. I'll have to remember that as I try to do more large roasts. P2 seems to work well for 250g batches.

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  • LeroyC
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    Originally posted by JojoS View Post
    25% heat at first crack till end of roast will probably stall my roast and end up underdeveloped. We all know the Behmor is very sensitive to voltage so I suppose it will vary from setup to setup even it is the same 220v-240v model.
    Are you using the 230v model? I thought you were using the 110v. Is it you that has done the SSR mod?

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  • artman
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    I have noticed with a bean temp probe that hitting P2 at 1C usually causes a stall in rate of rise. This is with 450-500g roasts, so with a smaller batch would probably be ok.

    You could use P3 as suggested by others.

    Cheers

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  • JojoS
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    25% heat at first crack till end of roast will probably stall my roast and end up underdeveloped. We all know the Behmor is very sensitive to voltage so I suppose it will vary from setup to setup even it is the same 220v-240v model.

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  • LeroyC
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    No P2 manual at 1C is what Andy and Joe recommend on the 230v machines. P3 at 1C is better on the 110v version apparently. I always hit P2 and C at 1C and have found it works a treat. I also whip the beans out about a minute into the cooling cycle and cool them with a fan.

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  • JojoS
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    You can try increasing drum speed when afterburner kicks. P2 manual is a bit too low, try P3 or even P4. Not sure what you meant by "rapidly cool" but external cooling might help.

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