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    what is the idea way to store sacks and sacks of green beans, let say in humid places like Queensland. thanks

  • #2
    Re: storing green beans

    Do you mean big sacks like my 60kg of PNG Kimel or little 2.5kg Coffee Snobs sacks?

    I keep mine (big and small) on open shelving so its off the ground and has airflow around.

    I realise QLD humidity is another factor but short of a climate controlled cupboard Im not sure what else you can do.

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    • #3
      Re: storing green beans

      That Kimel of yours sounds like the magic pudding TG! ;D

      I might also suggest that if by, "sacks and sacks" you are referring to jute bags in the 30-60kg range then it might also help to break these down to smaller, cotton or calico bags.

      Some people feel that the greens are susceptible to becoming baggy if left in the jute for long periods.

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      • #4
        Re: storing green beans

        For Brisbane and high humidity areas
        And for extended storage periods
        One could use those silica bags that suck the moisture out

        Don’t know if that will work?

        KK

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        • #5
          Re: storing green beans

          Originally posted by Dennis link=1217911994/0#2 date=1217917998
          That Kimel of yours sounds like the magic pudding TG!  ;D
          Just giving the bag size comparison Den. :
          Im down to 30kg.

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          • #6
            Re: storing green beans

            Originally posted by Koffee Kosmo link=1217911994/0#3 date=1217919616
            For Brisbane and high humidity areas
            And for extended storage periods
            One could use those silica bags that suck the moisture out

            Don’t know if that will work?

            KK
            Gday KK,

            The use of any kind of desiccant involved with the storage of green beans isnt all that good an idea really as you have no real control of the degree of dehumidification going on. Green beans need to be stored within an "ideal" range of absorbed moisture and drying out too much is just as bad, if not worse than if the beans are too wet. The ideal is considered to lie somewhere between 9% and 13% and usually 10-11%. Unless you undertake regular moisture content measurements of the beans, its quite possible to dry the beans out a bit too much and lose a lot of the intrinsic flavour characteristics; and thats not good....

            Cheers,
            Mal.

            Information Link... http://www.cscscientific.com/html/coffee.html

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            • #7
              Re: storing green beans

              Thanks for the info Mal

              How about a wine refrigerator? Do you think it has any merit?
              I believe they create a microclimate
              I am not sure if it is adjustable to a user’s settings though.

              KK

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              • #8
                Re: storing green beans

                May be possible.

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                • #9
                  Re: storing green beans

                  Hmmm,

                  I dont know KK..... I think there is still the chance that some "off" odours from the refrigeration unit, rubber seals and what have you, will ultimately contaminate the beans. A bit different with wine being in a sealed glass bottle.

                  The best option really is to find a space that is naturally well ventilated, cool, dark and dry; with no likelihood of weird or unsavoury odours hanging about. An old fashioned pantry would be ideal with the beans stored on metal mesh/grate shelves in their original CS bags or other calico style bag.

                  Mal.

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                  • #10
                    Re: storing green beans

                    so does anyone know how long green beans actually last? (Best Before date?)

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                    • #11
                      Re: storing green beans

                      Originally posted by 183134273C3F382935021134382F2E3E355D0 link=1217911994/9#9 date=1284375386
                      so does anyone know how long green beans actually last? (Best Before date?)
                      There is an often quoted rule known as the rule of threes.

                      Green Beans best used within 3 years.
                      Roasted beans best used within 3 weeks.
                      Ground coffee best used within 3 minutes.

                      Brett.

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                      • #12
                        Re: storing green beans

                        Thats a GREAT rule! Thanks

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                        • #13
                          Re: storing green beans

                          Originally posted by 1F3B323231310B1F3B27393B540 link=1217911994/6#6 date=1218025663
                          Thanks for the info Mal

                          How about a wine refrigerator? Do you think it has any merit?
                          I believe they create a microclimate
                          I am not sure if it is adjustable to a user’s settings though.

                          KK
                          Wine fridges generally have very high humidity of around 70% (the better quality ones do anyway). Ive never seen one with adjustable humidity, although temp is adjustable. That may be too high a humidity for bean storage, and condensation can also occur from opening the fridge door, particularly in hot weather (warm air outside fridge meeting cool air inside fridge). Any condensation getting on the beans would likely cause mould to grow, so I dont see this as practical.

                          Im in Qld (Brisbane) and have never had any problems storing beans up to 3 years so far. I just keep them in the original 2.5kg bags they come in from beanbay. I have them stacked off the ground on open steel mesh shelving so they have airflow around them. But my house does have air con, which gets a fair bit of use over summer, so that may keep the humidity down somewhat.

                          regards,
                          Bill

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                          • #14
                            Re: storing green beans

                            The guideline Ive most often seen for long term greens storage is 50% RH and 20C with airspace on all sides.


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                            • #15
                              Re: storing green beans

                              Does anyone see a problem using "ham" bags for green bean storage? They are just calico bags you can get from the supermarket.

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