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  • #16
    Re: Problem with new Rancilio Silvia 2009 3 hole steam tip

    This an answer I gave recently about depth of wand in the milk

    Regarding the milk foam

    Always start with cold milk and the right size jug
    The position of the wand in the milk jug is important for developing volume and texture

    For best volume e.g. Cappuccino, it should sit just below the surface (up to the bulbous tip joining the steam pipe)

    For best texture e.g. latte art, it is better to be slightly deeper (up to the bulbous tip join + 10mm up the steam pipe)

    It is important to position the steam wand differently for different coffee drinks.
    Hope it helps CK

    KK

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    • #17
      Re: Problem with new Rancilio Silvia 2009 3 hole steam tip

      Thanks for all of your suggestions! Today I gave it another shot and posted a video. It seems the amount of foam gets better with less milk at bottom but there is stiff bubble on top. Perhaps I have put the wand too close to the surface.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE_tFL_eC2I

      Here is the rosetta I tried to make. It doesnt look like one, does it?


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      • #18
        Re: Problem with new Rancilio Silvia 2009 3 hole steam tip

        1) Hohoho... too much angle I think...
        2) You gave it way too much air.. (sink the wand)
        3) The wand isnt at 90 degree by the look of it..  
        4) Use both hands, your Jug is wobbling everywhere....

        When I suggested give it small angle... I meant small angle same as when you started frothing...  so maybe you can give it another shot. with everything straight to start off with.  then tilt the jug slightly forward.

        Remember to sink the wand as well..  you gave it air for the whole one minute ......   I thought 45seconds was long already.. hehehe.  If you prepared your steam properly, all this should be done in less than 30 seconds..  I did another cup today and was all done in 15-20 seconds..

        5) Get yourself a thermometer :P

        Back to Rugby.. Go the NSW!

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        • #19
          Re: Problem with new Rancilio Silvia 2009 3 hole steam tip

          Originally posted by 544046465C50574052525454350 link=1245030008/17#17 date=1245842512
          Back to Rugby.. Go the NSW!
          Sorry they lost to QLD :

          Originally posted by 565E465440474046350 link=1245030008/16#16 date=1245832150
          Perhaps I have put the wand too close to the surface
          Did you read my post about wand depth ?

          KK

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          • #20
            Re: Problem with new Rancilio Silvia 2009 3 hole steam tip

            Today I got pretty good result with the foam hanging onto the wall of pitcher when spinning it. I think what I was missing before is holding the pitcher with two hands, which help stabilize the jug and get the necessary whirlpool action.

            Swirling is extremely important to get the microfoam. Depending on how you hold the pitcher, one has to find a position which makes the whirlpool possible. Even if I made some big bubbles at the beginning, the whirlpool can help eliminate them, which is quite in contrary to what some of the articles have said.

            When pouring, the foam started floating to the top too soon, when the cup is just half filled. Perhaps i need to fine tune my latte art technique and probably my cup is a bit too big.

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            • #21
              Re: Problem with new Rancilio Silvia 2009 3 hole steam tip

              Originally posted by 767E667460676066150 link=1245030008/19#19 date=1245902333
              Today I got pretty good result with the foam hanging onto the wall of pitcher when spinning it. I think what I was missing before is holding the pitcher with two hands, which help stabilize the jug and get the necessary whirlpool action.

              Swirling is extremely important to get the microfoam. Depending on how you hold the pitcher, one has to find a position which makes the whirlpool possible. Even if I made some big bubbles at the beginning, the whirlpool can help eliminate them, which is quite in contrary to what some of the articles have said.
              Try swirling the jug with it resting on the bench; that eliminates any up and down motion and should result in movement of the jug in only the horizontal plane.
              Works for me.

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              • #22
                Re: Problem with new Rancilio Silvia 2009 3 hole steam tip

                If its coming out nice but stiff
                That could be that the steaming is to long

                Also try starting the process from the centre of the jug & slowly moving to the side

                KK

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