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    I have been approached by a rep from pauls milk to change over for my cafe. he said to me to use the "2% fat milk" because you can use it for skinny and for full cream drinks, he said alot of cafes use it so they dont have to stock skinny and full cream because the 2% fat has a creamy taste.
    what do you guys think of it?

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    Originally posted by johnnyk84 link=1208990756/0#0 date=1208990756
    I have been approached by a rep from pauls milk to change over for my cafe. he said to me to use the "2% fat milk" because you can use it for skinny and for full cream drinks, he said alot of cafes use it so they dont have to stock skinny and full cream because the 2% fat has a creamy taste.
    what do you guys think of it?
    Absolute rubbish

    Just another sales rep trying to palm off more expensive modified product. People who order skim want close to 0%, not 2%.

    There is much better available than that and if the sales person is a representative of company attitude, Id be escorting him rapidly to the door and giving him a little What mediocrity....

    Dont waste the cash or your time with this goose.

    Chris

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    • #3
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      At veneziano we make a compromise with the taste and the fat content of the milk. We stock Pura light start 2L and its a greaat trade off for those ordering skinny milk but still has a good taste.

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        Yep, the Pura Light Start is a very good compromise!

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        • #5
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          Im only a newbie to this site and to coffee brewing.
          I use (and prefer) Pauls "Smart White" milk (2% fat) and I prefer it to ALL other milk. It froths up just as well as any other Ive tried, and I prefer the taste !!

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          • #6
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            I used to only buy the "smarter white" too until a report came up somewhere (on TV I think) saying that studies have linked low fat milk to increase chances of prostate cancer in men and infertility in women. After that its only full cream in my fridge. Anyone know if theres any truth to these allegations?

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by NewToEspresso link=1208990756/0#5 date=1209696216
              I used to only buy the "smarter white" too until a report came up somewhere (on TV I think) saying that studies have linked low fat milk to increase chances of prostate cancer in men and infertility in women. After that its only full cream in my fridge. Anyone know if theres any truth to these allegations?
              I just read up a few articles through a google search.  Could only find one study showing a link, and it seemed a very slight association between skim / low fat milk consumption and increased malignancy (I think it was the malignancy not the occurance of cancer that had an association in that particular study.  From what I could glean, if there was a cancer then there was a slightly stronger association with the malignant form and consumption of skim/low fat milk.  But I didnt read the original research paper and of course all the normal magazine reports etc prefer to sensationalise rather than tell the truth - though most of the journos probably wouldnt undertand the research in any case).  

              On the other hand, there appears to be a multitude of studies showing an association between milk fat and heart disease.  I believe the link between fat consumption and heart disease, through its association with cholesterol production from fats/carbohydrates as part of the digestive process, is more widely accepted at this time.

              So there are a few choices of how to die - from cancer, from heart disease or from starvation

              Edit: Other factors reported to have a positive association with prostate cancer include red meat, high calcium intake, body mass index, vitamin D (not sure what form).  A link is a far cry from a sole cause, and research appears to be still in relatively early phases.

              In Australia in 2006, 34,448 people died from angina, heart attack, blocked arteries plus strokes or similar (not including heart failure - generic or cardiac arrhythmias); 2,952 died from prostate cancer. http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/mf/3303.0?OpenDocument.

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              • #8
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                Interesting. When my wife was pregnant she had getational diabetes. The doctors told her to stay away from all low fat dairy products, even when she had our baby and was diabetes free. Aparantly with low fat dairy products, the reduced fat content means they become higher GI foods. So you are better off with full fat (which is normally only around 3.8% - 5%

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by johnnyk84 link=1208990756/0#0 date=1208990756
                  he said to me to use the "2% fat milk" because you can use it for skinny and for full cream drinks, he said alot of cafes use it so they dont have to stock skinny and full cream because the 2% fat has a creamy taste.
                  I think test it for yourself...

                  I know that "crema" milk 4% and no fat milk are great and work awesome in coffee. Its either dairy farmers or pauls this milk...

                  2% isnt skinny either...I wouldnt sell something that wasnt what the customer wanted...in the end theyre whats paying you to live or keep the shop open...so theyre your boss if you think of it that way

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                  • #10
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                    Agreed.

                    If I ask for Coke I dont mean Pepsi or vice versa.
                    I can taste the difference.
                    The same with milk.
                    I can taste the difference between full cream, light and skim.

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                    • #11
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                      Agreed also....

                      Even between brands of "Full cream"....

                      I normally use Bannister Downs..... but sometimes dont have enough when I have a sudden influx of guests.... so down to the local shop for 2 (or maybe 4) litres of milk.

                      There are two main suppliers of milk here in WA..... and neither are near as good as the above - even to my taste. But my wife prefers one of those brands of full cream milk compared to the other..... however if they have run out of that one I get the other......

                      As soon as she has her latte..... "You got that brand of milk again!!!!.... in a disapproving voice. Me.... I cant tell them apart but she can!!

                      So be very wary what you serve up to someone who usually takes milk based drinks (I dont) - they CAN taste the difference!

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Pioneer Roaster link=1208990756/0#7 date=1209867432
                        The doctors told her to stay away from all low fat dairy products
                        This is what Doctors say that really annoy me. Blanket statements like that. grrrr
                        My wife was in the same vote, the doc even said dont eat fruit - which was incorrect as Apples, Oranges and very Slightly green Bananas are Low GI... as is Light Milk... A bit of research over blanket statements that doctors make (Which Id like to add arent dietitians and really arent qualified to give advise in this area) goes along way and really opens your eyes and opens your options we well!

                        Here is something that will shock you - Nestle Quik, when mixed in Milk (skim or full cream) is a low GI drink! Who would have thought...

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                        • #13
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                          I used to eat Quik out of the tin.

                          Now I cant even take it in milk.

                          Youll probably get more fat from cheese than any milk. Everything in moderation is best. Once you start cutting out food groups you know youre going to be in trouble.

                          Have had zero complaints about the milk we use (except theres no soy), and its HB full cream, and Woolies skim.

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                          • #14
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                            The sales rep is correct in that there are a few places that use this milk instead of stocking a Full Cream and a Low Fat/No Fat product. The Smarter White Milk to the person who stated that it is a more expensive modified milk is incorrect. It is actually cheaper than the Rev and Skinny modified milk. I have been in hospitality for over 14 years and have used a variety of milks. There is nothing wrong with the Smarter White Milk. It has great frothing texture and has a full cream taste as well as being a low fat milk. However, I use a F/C and Skinny as my two products. It is upto and your customers on what you would prefer stock.

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                            • #15
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                              Another thing to admit Im a snob of - milk. NOTHING tastes like full cream milk except full cream milk. I have always been able to pick the difference in milks. Huge difference to my tastebuds.
                              Keep your customers happy by giving them what they order. Order full cream - get full cream. Order skim - get skim.
                              Would you like to buy my Porsche? (well its actually a Subaru but close enough isnt it??? :-?)

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