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  • #16
    Re: Using Raw Milk

    Dont think that would be legal will have to check next time I am in woolies.

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    • #17
      Re: Using Raw Milk


      i was wrong..... sorry

      I was thinking of Pauls Milk Parmalat Pure Organic

      but its been pasteurised as i just looked at it on parmalat. com. au

      all you princesses that wanted to swim in it will have to look elsewhere...... ;D

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      • #18
        Googled for information about texturing with raw milk and found this old thread. I buy raw milk from a nearby dairy but it textures really poorly. Same with unhomogenised organic whole milk. Anyone else got any experience trying to texture raw milk?

        Alan

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        • #19
          Originally posted by alanc View Post
          I buy raw milk from a nearby dairy but it textures really poorly. Anyone else got any experience trying to texture raw milk?

          Alan
          You'll probably find they skimmed most of the cream off most of the milk. Depending on the cow and what they're eating you can get about 30% cream.

          As for the texturing - just make sure before you use the milk for any purpose give it a good shake to distribute the cream evenly beforehand so you don't just use up the cream in the first pour. You shouldn't find any difference other than that. Don't go too high on the temp either otherwise it gets a bitter taste. No more than 60 but better 50-55 degrees.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Javafrog View Post
            You'll probably find they skimmed most of the cream off most of the milk. Depending on the cow and what they're eating you can get about 30% cream.

            As for the texturing - just make sure before you use the milk for any purpose give it a good shake to distribute the cream evenly beforehand so you don't just use up the cream in the first pour. You shouldn't find any difference other than that. Don't go too high on the temp either otherwise it gets a bitter taste. No more than 60 but better 50-55 degrees.
            I agree with the first point, it may actually be a high butterfat to protein ratio that makes it difficult to texture. But if raw milk became bitter after heating above 60 degrees all commercial milk would be, seeing as it's all been pasteurised.

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            • #21
              Now we have left the dairyfarm and our lovely raw milk straight from the cow is no longer available to us we have done a lot of trying different milks in the last year we have been in Brisvagus. Our choice for the best result here is Maleny Full Cream milk from Gurnsey cows which is of course like many other small producers around Australia is only found on sale in a limited geographical area.
              As for the raw milk the milk is taken from the cows and pumped straight through stainless steel pipes to the bulk milk vat. Samples are taken for the factory of milk quality by the tanker driver and then it is pumped into the milk tanker. No skimming of fat etc occurs. We had 36 years of using raw milk in our coffees and it foams so well. Smooth and oh so delicious. Average milk straight from the cow is 3 to 41/2 % fat depending on the breed and the feed. Protein averages 31/2 % also. That makes the milk froth. By the way farmers in the Southern Riverina (those that are left in the shrinking industry) are now getting 30 cents a litre for their milk. Not enough to make a living from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • #22
                Dont ever drink raw milk, was the cause of TB infection in my neck glands when a child and is still considered a health risk, check out health warnings re drinking raw milk or cheese current today ...

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                • #23
                  Using Raw Milk

                  Originally posted by herbie View Post
                  Now we have left the dairyfarm and our lovely raw milk straight from the cow is no longer available to us we have done a lot of trying different milks in the last year we have been in Brisvagus. Our choice for the best result here is Maleny Full Cream milk from Gurnsey cows which is of course like many other small producers around Australia is only found on sale in a limited geographical area.
                  As for the raw milk the milk is taken from the cows and pumped straight through stainless steel pipes to the bulk milk vat. Samples are taken for the factory of milk quality by the tanker driver and then it is pumped into the milk tanker. No skimming of fat etc occurs. We had 36 years of using raw milk in our coffees and it foams so well. Smooth and oh so delicious. Average milk straight from the cow is 3 to 41/2 % fat depending on the breed and the feed. Protein averages 31/2 % also. That makes the milk froth. By the way farmers in the Southern Riverina (those that are left in the shrinking industry) are now getting 30 cents a litre for their milk. Not enough to make a living from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  I agree with Herbie, we use raw milk here in New Zealand (which is $5 for two litres) and the taste is so much better than pasteurised milk which in saying that I cannot drink milk based coffees in cafes anymore because to me pasteurised milk tastes foul now.
                  In regards to texturing raw milk its fine, you have to shake the bottle to mix the cream with the rest of it and away you go- very delicious milk.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by balwoges View Post
                    Dont ever drink raw milk, was the cause of TB infection in my neck glands when a child and is still considered a health risk, check out health warnings re drinking raw milk or cheese current today ...
                    Australia is now free from Bovine tuberculosis (TB). The last case in cattle was detected in March 2002.

                    Since 1970 cattle herds have been tested and infected cattle have been culled.

                    Pasteurisation of our milk was introduced when these diseases were common and prior to refrigeration on the farm and during transport.

                    While many of the reasons for pasteurisation have disappeared, government agencies are reluctant to allow milk without it to be sold as they will come under fire with any cases of disease spread by milk.

                    Sale of unpasteurised Cleopatra milk, supposably for bathing, is illegal as there is a fair chance it might be consumed.

                    Goats milk can be sold without pasteurisation when from a registed herd.

                    For a lot of my life I drank raw goats milk without any harmful effects.



                    Barry
                    Last edited by Barry_Duncan; 11 February 2013, 11:42 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Barry_Duncan View Post
                      Australia is now free from Bovine tuberculosis (TB). The last case in cattle was detected in March 2002.

                      Since 1970 cattle herds have been tested and infected cattle have been culled.

                      Pasteurisation of our milk was introduced when these diseases were common and prior to refrigeration on the farm and during transport.

                      While many of the reasons for pasteurisation have disappeared, government agencies are reluctant to allow milk without it to be sold as they will come under fire with any cases of disease spread by milk.

                      Sale of unpasteurised Cleopatra milk, supposably for bathing, is illegal as there is a fair chance it might be consumed.

                      Goats milk can be sold without pasteurisation when from a registed herd.

                      For a lot of my life I drank raw goats milk without any harmful effects.




                      Barry
                      I agree wholeheartedly with Barry, TB and brucellosis have been effectively eradicated from all dairy and meat herds in Aus an NZ. Adults with normal immunity are at minimal risk from raw milk, however children and immunosupressed adults should avoid consuming raw milk (and Unpasteurised cheese - yum...). Of course legislation has to cover all eventualities so raw milk is not commercially available.

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                      • #26
                        Raw milk products

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by balwoges View Post
                          Yep. Consuming raw milk is potentially hazardous for children and immunosupressed adults (incl. pregnant women) - but minimal risk to healthy adults, there's no point living in fear, even less point trying to spread it. You don't see the government putting a blanket ban on deli meats - but they carry the same risks.

                          Just to clarify my perspective, I'm not against the restriction on sale of raw milk to the public. If you can't stop people smoking around their children or make them vaccinate their kids, you certainly can't prevent them giving their kids raw milk.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by balwoges View Post
                            Don't go to France then, most of the best cheeses are made with raw milk.

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                            • #29
                              Why fly overseas when you can stay right here and risk your life with local cheeses

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Vinitasse View Post
                                Why fly overseas when you can stay right here and risk your life with local cheeses
                                Only if you decide to roll a wheel of pasteurised brie across the road.

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