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  • Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

    I have seen a number of threads relating to customised steam wands that have been built (or attempted to be built) to replace the short steam wand on the Quaha machines.
    This is probably a silly question but can the Silvia steam wand be used with an attachment such as the Gaggia has? And if so is there one available?

    Also, can somebody please tell me the thread type required for the steam tip (I havent been able to get mine off yet to check). I am thinking of replacing the single hole tip with a two hole tip.

    Cheers

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    Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

    As far as I have found the only way to mod it is to fabricate something yourself. I have been looking in to this myself quite a bit and a couple of people have created things, including Greg Pullman. The only reason they havent gone into production is because there isnt enough demand from them so it wouldnt be worth anyones time to do unless the price was really high. Id be happy paying 50 bucks but for some thats too dear. Someone may be willing to produce them if there was keen interest from people here on CS.

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    • #3
      Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

      There are two main hurdles here:

      1) Theres very little demand for these parts. So mass production at small quantities is very expensive, and the time it takes to make one from scratch is quite long. Neither scenario really do justice to the price Ive been charging but Im loathed to charge people $150 for what looks like it should be a relatively cheap part. If there were a hundred people who wanted them itd probably be affordable for everyone, but interest thus far has tended to be one enquiry every few months. As a result Im not inclined to spend hours making them myself or chasing the best deal for people when the return on that time is likely to be very poor.
      2) 07 Silvia steam tips are not available as individual items in Australia so currently the cost has to include the manufacture of those. However I could redesign the part to accept an 09 tip which are available

      Im currently getting another quote done up in the hope Ill be able to offer something to those in need, but like most people Im pretty busy so labours of love like this tend to be a low priority.

      Greg

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      • #4
        Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

        Originally posted by 5144535146435A5A5B5758360 link=1275289271/2#2 date=1279676270
        Im currently getting another quote done up in the hope Ill be able to offer something to those in need, but like most people Im pretty busy so labours of love like this tend to be a low priority
        Itd be awesome if it became doable but not if its setting anyone - or yourself back in other priorities.

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        • #5
          Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

          1st-Line Equipment have posted on their facebook with photos showing that the 3 hole tip from the Elektra Microcasa fits the Lelit.

          " 1st-line Equipment Part Number - 01400021, replaces the single hole acorn nut with a 3-hole chromed tip from the Elektra Microcasa.
          http://bit.ly/d0CCFf "

          Check out their facebook page if it interests you..

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          • #6
            Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

            Great tip (excuse the pun) lukewarm but where do you get the electra tips in Aus? I noticed that 1st line dont ship to Aus. A pity as they have a great range of lelit bits that I cant find a source for here.

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            • #7
              Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

              Originally posted by 6C7D6E61647C7B6A7D0F0 link=1275289271/5#5 date=1279755973
              Great tip (excuse the pun) lukewarm but where do you get the electra tips in Aus? I noticed that 1st line dont ship to Aus. A pity as they have a great range of lelit bits that I cant find a source for here.
              Honestly I havent started looking but maybe if you chat to Dennis at cuppacoffee or Chris at Talk Coffee they may be able to help you source parts. As for the elktra tip - again I havent looked but will later tonight after work. PS. My lelit has the round tip with froth aid which I havent been able to unscrew - I think its soldered together and cant be removed. Apparently there are models out there that have the acorn hexagonal tip which can be unscrewed.

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              • #8
                Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

                Originally posted by 5F4658564452415E040202330 link=1275289271/6#6 date=1279779044
                I think its soldered together and cant be removed. Apparently there are models out there that have the acorn hexagonal tip which can be unscrewed.
                I must have the acorn type because I just unscrewed it (or broke it). It has quite a large hole too. I have been playing with more milk in the jug and having more success. Convinced that the short wand is one of the contributing problems here.



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                • #9
                  Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

                  Thats a big hole I guess... but as long as it does the trick.
                  And yeah thats the acorn style tip which is unscrewable.. Mine however is not.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

                    A bit of progress here... the new style Silvia tips are readily available and a lot cheaper than manufacturing the old style ones myself in the quantities were talking. So its only the extension piece I need to get made, and the design of the new tips also makes the design of the extension piece slightly simpler.

                    It remains to be seen whether the price of the finished product is justifiable but were certainly closer than we were six weeks ago.

                    Greg

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                    • #11
                      Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

                      Originally posted by 7065727067627B7B7A7679170 link=1275289271/9#9 date=1280455488
                      . So its only the extension piece I need to get made, and the design of the new tips also makes the design of the extension piece slightly simpler.
                      Is the new wand the one with the froth enhancer and the rounded tip or is the new one the acorn nut screw-on tip with no froth enhancer?? I bought mine a month ago and it is rounded and has the enhancer.

                      PS. Nice work Greg look forward to hearing from you.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

                        The one I have looks like this. Its not an acorn but I wouldnt consider this to be a froth enhancer either (unless theres another hole hiding somewhere!). This is the only one I can easily find in Australia. The original wand I made used an old Silvia acorn tip. Having said that Ive not used a Silvia with this tip so Id welcome any feedback on how this tip performs.

                        Ive got some more figures back now. I could sell the wand and tip at $60 plus postage if I got 20 made, or $50 plus postage if I got 30 made. Neither quantity is particularly compelling given thereve probably only been half a dozen people interested in this so far and Id have to be carrying this project for a while before it paid for itself, but getting any less than 20 made would price it out of the market I think. Of course if I put a price on the hours Ive spent trying to find tips, make drawings, get quotes and so on theyd be $200 each regardless  : Just have to hope that warm fuzzy feeling of supporting the CS community keeps me going ;D

                        Greg

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                        • #13
                          Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

                          Id be happy paying $60. Are you making your own wand or an extension and what style would it be?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

                            Itll be the same design as what I did earlier, just an extension piece to join on where the factory froth enhancer goes, the only difference is the threading and diameter of the wand to match the Silvia tip. I cant find the original post at the moment but its basically a 40mm tube of stainless steel with the relevant threads at each end and the necessary chamfers / bevels to make all the parts join together properly.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Quaha/Nemox/Lelit Steam Wand and Tip

                              Down the bottom of here might be what you mean??

                              http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1151416945/new

                              Heres another link which shows another CSrs new wand..
                              http://tominoz.50webs.com/Pages/coffewand.htm

                              PS. Will the whole steam arm be replaced or just from a section onwards?  I have this style of wand - however the tip ( as ive said is round and not removable unlike the acorn style one in this pic)

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