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    As per diagram, which is the best way to use 2-hole steam tip that the vbm junior comes with:
    A) @90 degrees into jug
    B) at an angle across the surface of the milk

    I realise that the jug can be tilted


  • #2
    Re: vbm junior 2-hole steam tip

    I have a vbm jnr as well and I was having all sorts of problems until I followed KKs technique in this thread.

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1220959662

    I now produce smooth microfoam every time. Basically start with 90 degrees in the middle and just below the surface ( a few mm) and when the temp reaches about 40 move it to the side but keep the tip at about the same level. Youll be amazed at the results.

    Its that simple.

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    • #3
      Re: vbm junior 2-hole steam tip

      cheers barri. let me try that out.

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      • #4
        Hi barri,

        Any chance you can repost the thread? Doesn't seem to link up to a specific page?

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        • #5
          (A) 90deg seems to work best. The one on the angle is sometimes hit or miss for latte art pouring.

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          • #6
            I'm finding that I get plenty of froth but it seems to be in the upper part of the jug? Lower part is virtually straight milk. On my old Ranvilio I could froth milf to a consistent velvety texture all the way to boyyom of jug. Anyone else get this issue and what did you do to fix????

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ldm720 View Post
              I'm finding that I get plenty of froth but it seems to be in the upper part of the jug? Lower part is virtually straight milk. On my old Ranvilio I could froth milf to a consistent velvety texture all the way to bottom of jug. Anyone else get this issue and what did you do to fix????
              Once you have stretched the milk to your liking (steam tip few mm below surface of milk in the centre of the jug - as i do it on my VBM jnr) move the steam tip to the perimeter of the jug and dunk it a bit deeper in the milk so the milk starts swirling and heating.

              I find this works best for me to get the 'creaminess' throughout. I also keep the steam wand at 90deg. Just dont stretch the milk too much in 'phase 1' otherwise you will be 'blowing bubbles'

              check out this video:
              Last edited by kopigeek; 26 February 2015, 06:34 PM.

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              • #8
                Thanks Kopigeek, I've tried again taking your comments on board, and surprisingly heaps better! I think the thing I was doing wrong was I was keeping the tip just under the milk surface the whole time, lowering the tip in the milk in phase 2 of frothing helps heaps! Much more consistent.

                Thanks for the tip!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ldm720 View Post
                  Thanks Kopigeek, I've tried again taking your comments on board, and surprisingly heaps better! I think the thing I was doing wrong was I was keeping the tip just under the milk surface the whole time, lowering the tip in the milk in phase 2 of frothing helps heaps! Much more consistent.

                  Thanks for the tip!
                  Glad you're getting the results. Keep practicing and eventually you will fine tune your technique and end up with awesome creamy microfoamed milk.

                  I've got my technique sorted with my ~300ml and 600ml jugs. Haven't tried my 1L jug yet as there hasnt been a need. So far it's only used to top up the tank.

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                  • #10
                    Been doing a lot of practising since the last post and things have really improved!! Advice worked a treat! Not only great results but consistant too. Starting in the centre of the jug at right angle (straight) definitely makes all the difference then I position the wand about 10mm off the side of the jug when temp hits around 45 degrees, can't go wrong.

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                    • #11
                      vbm junior 2-hole steam tip

                      That's awesome mate. The milk makes a huge difference too. I'm good with full cream but ask me to get a similar result with skim and it's another story (need to improve my consistency). don't get me started with soy milk. I've banned it.

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                      • #12
                        Haha, to be honest I prefer full cream milk too. Interestingly, I was at MICE last week and the Vitasoy stand were doing latte's with coconut milk, no froth at all. Flavour was nice though. I've tried many different brands of coconut milk over the past year or so and always the same result, apparently no protein in the milk which is what makes the creamy consistency. Funny thing is I found a coffee shop up in Noosaville a year ago who did an amazing latte with coconut milk, frothy and creamy like normal milk. I saw the container they were using but can't remember the name? I bought some of the syrups they were selling at MICE and a little dash of the coconut is a nice treat, bit too sweet to have regularly though.

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                        • #13
                          What cafe ldm720? I live up in Noosaville and may be able to find that coconut milk for you!

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                          • #14
                            The cafe was called Red Olive, on the corner of Weyba Rd and Lake Weyba Drive! Nice little group of shops, next door to an organic food supply. Also I remember a small milk bar a couple of door away that made the best South African Biltong!!!!!!!

                            Would be keen to hear from you!!

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                            • #15
                              Sorry to re-hash an old thread. I've recently upgraded to the Junior from a Silvia, and over the last few weeks I've tried unsuccessfully to texture milk properly with the Junior. I end up with with very bubbly milk even with the KK method. After reading through some other threads, a suggestion to plug one of the holes with a toothpick was made - tried this and the milk was much better. However, I prefer a more permanent solution and wondering if anyone can recommend an alternate steam tip that I could perhaps try.

                              TIA

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