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  • #31
    Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

    Originally posted by 465C515042544C4646350 link=1299533787/8#8 date=1299641783
    I do what some have done, buy Bannister Downs milk. Its local, worth a a bit more but i know it tastes better, it;s not diluted and im supporting the local farmers and help create jobs instead of profits being sent to the east.

    We use bannister downs at our cafe. I didnt know if I notied the difference at first, but after having milk based coffee from other cafes I would say I can.

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    • #32
      Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers


      I have been using the Coles milk for ages, it was good, but then the whole price war started, soon after I noticed the flavor changing, then more recently harder to texture.

      Skip to tonight, and I picked up some Pauls and DF, tried both and both run rings around what I have tasted and textured out of the coles, so Im going back to the more expensive stuff.

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      • #33
        Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

        Originally posted by 6B405A414659290 link=1299533787/31#31 date=1304005868
        I have been using the Coles milk for ages
        Ditto.

        Originally posted by 6B405A414659290 link=1299533787/31#31 date=1304005868
        then the whole price war started, soon after I noticed the flavor changing, then more recently harder to texture
        I havent noticed this at all. :-?

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        • #34
          Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

          At home we use the more expensive stuff.. I prefer the taste and texture.

          At work (Training school) we were using the cheap stuff because alot of it is poured down the sink.. The smell is revolting, when you have 10 students that are learning to foam milk for the first time, most burn their first attempt, the smell is not only off putting for them, for me I try really hard not to dry wretch... The cheap stuff seemed like a good idea at the time, but I have now moved up to middle priced stuff.. Better results..
          I had a class last week, and with all the Public Holidays the only milk available was Pauls.. The results were mind blowing... Their first attempts were outstanding! So it leaves me thinking, should I just hang the expense and buy the good stuff... Quite possibly we wouldnt be throwing a lot of it away as we are getting a better result...
          I guess the saying stands, you get what you pay for....

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          • #35
            Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

            Originally posted by 172B362D272631242C27430 link=1299533787/32#32 date=1304030506
            I havent noticed this at all.
            Maybe its a local issue, although maybe I just dont have the skills or steam power to compensate enough for changes in the milk either.

            In the past I did notice the Coles would vary month to month, but for a long time it was as good as Dairy Farmers, but its almost like it went to a bad seasonal change, and has yet to come good again, though its been months now.

            When I was at Di Bella the other day, I noticed they use a milk I have never even heard of, tasted on par with the best I have ever drunk before, and they sell a version targeted at home users, which I was told textures very easy, Id have been tempted to try that if they were not so far from home.

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            • #36
              Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

              Originally posted by 352F222331273F3535460 link=1299533787/26#26 date=1300989007
              Originally posted by 0B372A313B3A2D38303B5F0 link=1299533787/22#22 date=1300941454
              Might also be a local issue Gary
              TG, this is a situation that needs to be addressed.
              We dont know if the milk from Woolies or Coles are trucked from over east as mentioned by myself previously on this topic, or produced locally, or trucked by the tankful from the east and bottled here etc etc.

              The addresses to be contacted are Melbourne for Coles milk, and Sydney for Woolies milk.
              In my opinion there should be labelling that tells where the milk originated from. My feeling is the milk is shipped from the east, otherwise if the milk is sourced locally, then they would label it as proudly produced in WA, of which Brownes and Bannister Downs can claim. Their contact addresses are local.

              The dairy industry in the east especially NSW and Victoria is much bigger than here in WA, so the big guns there are making things difficult for farmers here who are doing it tough what with the drought and the price of fuel etc.by dominating the market share.

              Gary at G
              Hi Gary, without naming names, some time back i did a stint at a major dairy. Out of boredom on nightshift we would assist the guys on the bottling machines. Part of that was changing over the rolls of labels when they changed product.
              When they went from their normal premium milk to a "home brand" milk naturally i asked the question... whats the difference?
              Answer: "the label"...
              Things may have changed but then again, maybe not.
              Ill leave it there

              edit: oh yeah, the milk was local (southwest). never heard of any being trucked across from the dark side... bit far id reckon

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              • #37
                Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                My wife and I used to buy Coles milk before the price wars (we heard stories about the label swap thing and how there is often no difference between brand and homebrand). When they dropped it to $1/L we kept drinking it until we both started getting indigestion and intolerance like symptoms after a large milk based coffee or a bowl of cereal.

                Anyway we changed to the Coles Organic (had it before) and it tasted better and we havent had stomach issues. We have dairy farmers or local milk at work and the local stuff is fine. Dairy Farmers is a bit so so.

                I dunno if its the permeates or what, but we are now looking for locally farmed and processed milk over the coles stuff.

                Cheers,

                Wolski

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                • #38
                  Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                  Dairy farmers add permeate to keep milk consistancy throughout the whole year .. permeate is simply protien DF / pura ar the best milks to use for coffee .... consistancy is what they pride themselves on !!!! p.s d i bella uses norco .... its terrible & inconsistant and pretty much cheap and nasty milk ! ive done tastings and the df brand is by far the best

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                  • #39
                    Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                    Hi MM,

                    Its a shame you have the ingredients in milk permeate backwards. How is the rest of your contribution?

                    Greg

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                    • #40
                      Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                      Originally posted by 6A5F484A7A425F404C41492D0 link=1299533787/38#38 date=1309327002
                      Hi MM,

                      Its a shame you have the ingredients in milk permeate backwards. How is the rest of your contribution?

                      Greg

                      ;D Sure is an interesting first post, worlds probably better of without it

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                      • #41
                        Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                        Originally posted by 322E232B2F2A2D2B272F22460 link=1299533787/37#37 date=1309263247
                        Dairy farmers add permeate to keep milk consistancy throughout the whole year .. permeate is simply protien DF / pura ar the best milks to use for coffee .... consistancy is what they pride themselves on !!!! p.s d i bella uses norco .... its terrible & inconsistant and pretty much cheap and nasty milk ! ive done tastings and the df brand is by far the best
                        Looks like an advertisement for DF milk.
                        Not a good first post.

                        I grew up on the North Coast so I wont have newbs saunter in and rubbish Norco without calling them out on it.

                        Do you work for DF????????

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                        • #42
                          Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                          Originally posted by 1529342F252433262E25410 link=1299533787/40#40 date=1309329600

                          I grew up on the North Coast so I wont have newbs saunter in and rubbish Norco without calling them out on it.
                          Well, Im not a newb and I will rubbish Norco milk...its rubbish.

                          Always inconsistent and have been having trouble with it for ages with tiny bubbles that no amount of thumping jugs will get rid of. Everytime we get a delivery of it, half of it has been frozen (yes, that is probably a delivery problem and not a manufacturer problem) but it still is rubbish, IMHO and I have hated it for several years. It was just at a good price for the boss.

                          Weve actually been using IGAs branded milk of late and I have to say, Im loving it! Dont really know where it is coming from but it keeps the bosses happy because of its price and keeps me happy because I can consistently get great silky milk out of it.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                            No i work in a cafe ..... weve tried all milk we used pura then df took over queensland market so we use that .... by far beats any other milk ....texturing & flavour wise but thats mine & our customers opinion , each to their own !!! df make iga milk saw it on our milk truck once ....
                            Originally posted by 21313D3D26330D35333E520 link=1299533787/41#41 date=1309330024
                            Originally posted by 1529342F252433262E25410 link=1299533787/40#40 date=1309329600

                            I grew up on the North Coast so I wont have newbs saunter in and rubbish Norco without calling them out on it.
                            Well, Im not a newb and I will rubbish Norco milk...its rubbish.

                            Always inconsistent and have been having trouble with it for ages with tiny bubbles that no amount of thumping jugs will get rid of. Everytime we get a delivery of it, half of it has been frozen (yes, that is probably a delivery problem and not a manufacturer problem) but it still is rubbish, IMHO and I have hated it for several years. It was just at a good price for the boss.

                            Weve actually been using IGAs branded milk of late and I have to say, Im loving it! Dont really know where it is coming from but it keeps the bosses happy because of its price and keeps me happy because I can consistently get great silky milk out of it.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                              Originally posted by 26363A3A21340A323439550 link=1299533787/41#41 date=1309330024
                              Well, Im not a newb and I will rubbish Norco milk...its rubbish.
                              ;D
                              Ill only use it on my Weetbix then when I can get my hands on it.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Milking the price war is froth and trouble for coffee lovers

                                Originally posted by 6854495258594E5B53583C0 link=1299533787/43#43 date=1309352168
                                ;D
                                Ill only use it on my Weetbix then when I can get my hands on it.
                                Thatd be about all it is good for! ;D

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