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    I just got a classic gaggia and when i use the turbo frother with the milk it just makes massive bubbles and does alot of spluttering and gurgling ....any suggestions???

  • #2
    Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

    Take out the turbo frother, you should be able to froth better without.

    Regards


    Renzo
    Di Bartoli Home Barista Centre

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    • #3
      Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

      Yeah i heard that might be the case... but obviously they put it on for a reason so i figured it must be usable ... Plus it becomes pretty much too short when i take it off.
      It is like i am blowing into it with a straw or something... anyone else had this problem??

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      • #4
        Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

        Stick a paper clip up the steam wand, its probably blocked with milk scum.

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        • #5
          Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

          hey scotty i have a gaggia classic too go down to your local coffee parts supplier or order online a steam arm for a Rancillio silvia v2 should cost around $40. when you have it you can google how too put on but its very simple you just screw the old one off and the new one on no mods required. was by far the best $40 i spent on my gaggia the turbo frother sucks, another trick too is to start steaming just before the light comes on to keep the boiler element on it provides more steam for longer, doing this with my rancillio arm i can achieve perfect milk at home. good luck anymore questions about the gaggia feel free too fire away.

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          • #6
            Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

            What you have found is quite normal. Its a turbo assist to help people buying presumably their first pump driven espresso machine and who dont know how to froth milk, to froth milk, without having any technique or expertise to rely on. Stick it in the milk, and make.....froth. 

            In so far as modifying so the operator can develop their own technique and get a better quality of texture in the milk foam, you need only purchase the previous version "panarello" (thats what they are called...literally means "frother" or "frothie"). Slip the outer (turbo) tube off this panarello. This leaves a long inner pipe to use as a simple steam pipe (unlike the panarello assembly that comes with the machine that only has a short unusable inner stub).

            Unscrew the pinch nut on the current panarello & slip it off the metal steam pipe, and replace it with the new one (ie the one you buy), screw up the pinch nut and whalla, problem solved. Use it without ever slipping the outer turbo tube back on.

            Should have one of these in stock, and if you want to investigate just email contact@cosmorexcoffee.com.au tomorrow and ask for spare parts and service section.

            Rgdz,
            Attilio.

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            • #7
              Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

              I have a gaggia classic coffee and use the stock steam wand without the turbo frother.

              It works very well.

              1. check water level
              2. switch machine on
              3. switch steam switch on
              4. wait 6 minutes
              5. open steam valve to let water come out until steam is dry, close steam valve
              6. place milk bucket under steam wand - wand end 1 cm under milk surface, open steam valve at least 1/2 turn
              7. lower milk jug so steam wand can suck in some air, then keep it there - youll know its right
              8. Youll have frothy milk in 1 minute or less.

              Phil
              PS: Dont forget to close the steam valve before removing milk jug  :

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              • #8
                Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

                Thanks guys...
                do i turn the steam valve all the way round to full?
                I feel like Im doin most of this already but theres a few adjustments i can make still. Ive descaled it this arvo too. ill check in the morning.

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                • #9
                  Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

                  Still having trouble.... :-[ Ive attached a video of the steam... does this look normal?? It just seems like hot air to me!
                  Also..when making the shot there is a small leak from the top left of the filter holder gasket..
                  note: ok so video didnt work... but its just like it blows completely invisible steam out........

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                  • #10
                    Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

                    Originally posted by 73636F74746C6176656E646572000 link=1324870726/8#8 date=1325116596
                    Still having trouble.... :-[ Ive attached a video of the steam... does this look normal?? It just seems like hot air to me!
                    Also..when making the shot there is a small leak from the top left of the filter holder gasket.. 
                    note: ok so video didnt work... but its just like it blows completely invisible steam out........
                    if its blowing hard enough to be felt from several inches away, Then its strong enough. Most steam tends to be on the dry side of things, So it usually looks like theres not much happening. But looks can be deceiving.

                    Also, it Sounds like you could require a group Head Gasket replacement, not to worry, they arent that hard to exchange

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                    • #11
                      Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

                      Did you buy a NEW Gaggia Classic or a used one?

                      A new one shouldnt require a new group seal after only a few days use.

                      Also , why would you descale a new machine?

                      An older used machine may well have the older type panarello I gave you advice about. But you did say that the inner on your machine is too short to use without the turbo tube on, and that would suggest a  newer or new model.

                      If your pipe is blowing *hot air* instead of steam then you dont have any steam happening. You cannot mistake steam for hot air. Also the steam from the classic should be aggressive enough and be spitting quite a bit of water vapour (atleast at first before it settles down)...it will make your hand very wet if you pass it under the end of the nozzle while it steams. Like a candle, dont stop moving and dont go too close to the source or it will burn you.

                      If you let the steam run for long enough with the steam button switched off, it will peter out to a stream of hot air and then to nothing. When steaming, leave the steam switch in the ON position to stop the steam petering out on you. Dont try and steam any more than enough milk for 2 standard sized cups (not mugs) at a time. That will be a 600 ml jug with a milk level below half. The Classic doesnt have enough capacity to steam any more milk than that effectively in one go.   When you are finished texturing your milk, then you switch off the steam button, and reprime the boiler with water.

                      Hope that helps, and please let us know how you go.

                      Attilio
                      very first CS site sponsor.   

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                      • #12
                        Re: problem with gaggia classic turbo frother!

                        Thanks all. yeah its a used model... bout 8 yrs old. only used about 30 times though.
                        How much does the gasket cost and what does it effect? Could this be impacting my steam... i had a cheap sunbeam machine for 4 yrs before this and could get some half decent milk so i feel im not a complete amateur!! Lol.
                        its really confusing me though...

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