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  • #16
    Re: Companies cave to permeate pressure

    If I was to say cheese is a by-product of whey production, omg ew run for the hills ! Idiots would be furious,

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    • #17
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      Sounds like a typical ACA beat up to me.

      Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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      • #18
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        And dont even get me started on the "milk price war hurting farmers" the supermarkets simply take reduced profits per liter on milk, and sell more of it,  and everything else! taking business off the smaller operators, the price the supermarkets pay has increased! The export and domestic price of protien and fat determines the price the farmers get, the high Australian dollar does the bulk of the damage! And the rest is the speed costs are rising in Australia, compared with the rest of the world due to our welfare government, and green dictators and a major shift of productive employees to unproductive/management/hr/sales and marketing/desk jockey positions/pollies/Beuracrats/lawyers and leeches , all sucking lifeblood from the host..when the parasites get too greedy, the host dies...  30% electricity price rise is what the farmers should really be worrying about

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        • #19
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          I understand that milk is manipulated for the sake of consistency, and I think its up to the milk companies to sell the benefits rather than treat or speak of consumers like dummies and idiots.

          Originally posted by 57737671777B741A0 link=1340622249/10#10 date=1340665288
          profiteering from the confusion and nothing more
          Clear labelling would reduce the confusion, would it not? That way, the consumer can make their own decision.

          Originally posted by 57737671777B741A0 link=1340622249/17#17 date=1340677726
          supermarkets simply take reduced profits per liter on milk
          Should we be feeling sorry for the supermarkets? If they are taking reduced profits per litre then all it suggests to me is that they have been gouging for a very, very long time. As far as I can see, supermarkets are making record overall profits, while making fewer brand choices available.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by 587C797E78747B150 link=1340622249/17#17 date=1340677726
            30% electricity price rise is what the farmers should really be worrying about
            ...only in the states that have daylight savings.
            ;D
            (a joke for the QLD no faded curtain dairy farmers)

            I didnt expect so many heated replies. The ACA story was emailed to me last night (I dont watch the show) so I posted a link up here.

            There was a story a while ago about some countries grinding peas with their coffee for price/profit. It could have been coffee parchment that they were grinding and that would get around label requirements. Not dissimilar to grinding whole cows and calling it mince beef.

            I think anything called milk should be milk, anything added needs to go on the label and then the consumer can determine if they want to buy and consume it.

            For me thats what this story is all about.

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            • #21
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              A dairy industry insider emailed me last night...
              (might have made more sense to post here instead but I assume he is keeping his head down)

              He wanted to point out that "this week all of Pura and Dairy Farmers White milk becomes Permeate Free" (they are listed in the first post as being permeate free) and also wanted to point out that "the decision to remove Permeate from all white milk has been over two years in the making"

              I was also emailed some links...

              The process...

              [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=0rD6U0Bb7tE[/media]

              and Makin Milk...

              [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n2lhZQg-tA[/media]

              http://www.pura.com.au/permeatefree
              http://www.dairyfarmers.com.au/permeatefree.html

              PR backflip, conscience change or a postive spin by the guys in marketing?  It doesnt matter much, the end result is that we are talking about it, they are talking about it and the customer gets a choice.
              8-)

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              • #22
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                Hi all, After watching Food Inc some years ago I’ve had a majour change in how and what my family consumes. Unfortunately this doesn’t always result in a better latte. I’ve been using 100% organic unhomogenised  Jersey milk which costs about $1.50 more for 2 lts (which isn’t much in the scheme of things) to make my wife’s lattes but unfortunately all things being equal the Aldi brand milk produces a better micro froth. So my guests get the Aldi and my wife gets the Jersey     
                Does anyone have any ideas of how to get a better result from the Jersey milk? It has a much higher fat content than regular milk? Would I be better off getting the homogenised low fat version? 

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                • #23
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                  Buy pasteurized homogenized high protien jersey milk, if you want good froth, organic milk makes
                  Me laugh "wow hormone pesticide and antibiotic free!" hormones have never been fed to dairy cows, only beef cattle, antibiotics are only used to save dairy cows lives and the milk they produce while on it is disguarded, all milk is tested for antibiotics, dairy cows eat mainly grass for there is no rush to beef em up , organic is a
                  Joke, low fat is a rip off (fat is the costly stuff, just add more water!) 50% permeate aswell (oooh)

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by 6F4B4E494F434C220 link=1340622249/22#22 date=1340781589
                    Joke, low fat is a rip off (fat is the costly stuff, just add more water!) 50% permeate aswell (oooh)
                    And that statement alone is reason enough to label milk properly.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by 644B415C250 link=1340622249/19#19 date=1340687320
                      I think anything called milk should be milk, anything added needs to go on the label and then the consumer can determine if they want to buy and consume it.
                      +1

                      Im happy.... as long as I dont get any orders for a quarter strength decaf half permeated skinny extra hot latte with 4 equals and a marshmallow.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by 527B666071140 link=1340622249/24#24 date=1340784996
                        quarter strength decaf half permeated skinny extra hot latte with 4 equals and a marshmallow
                        Do you have any vegan marshmallows?

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by 082C292E28242B450 link=1340622249/22#22 date=1340781589
                          hormones have never been fed to dairy cows, only beef cattle
                          This statement is meaningless as hormones are not only fed to cattle (Both dairy and beef.) but are also injected. As to hormones never having been used on dairy cows in Australia, in a word, baloney. Hormones have in fact seen wide spread use in Australias dairy industry and can still be used today as the ban on some of them is voluntary rather than ensconced in law. So yes, the label of Organic does in fact mean something.

                          Originally posted by 082C292E28242B450 link=1340622249/22#22 date=1340781589
                          dairy cows eat mainly grass for there is no rush to beef em up
                          Up to 40% of the diet of dairy cows in Australia is comprised of supplemental grains while many beef cattle, especially in Western Queensland and in the Gulf, are raised on purely pasturage. While dairy cows dont need to beef up they do need a lot of energy to produce their large quantities (18-20 litres) of milk every day.


                          Java "Moo!" phile
                          Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by 230C061B620 link=1340622249/25#25 date=1340785618
                            Do you have any vegan marshmallows?
                            http://sweetandsara.com/


                            Java " ;D ;D ;D " phile
                            Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by 624D475A230 link=1340622249/25#25 date=1340785618
                              Originally posted by 527B666071140 link=1340622249/24#24 date=1340784996
                              quarter strength decaf half permeated skinny extra hot latte with 4 equals and a marshmallow
                              Do you have any vegan marshmallows?

                              Haha Andy.....maybe I should ask the boss if she has any hiding for special customers

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                              • #30
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                                Well the gigs up, the dirty secret is out, permeate is being removed from drinking milk everywhere, resulting in 32%fat26%protien18%casein permeate-free lard blocks, taking over the milk market. now factories face an oversupply of the evil ingredient "permeate". In efforts to dispose of this ghastly by-product, companies are spewing large amounts of dihydrogen monoxide gas into the atmosphere, and secretly selling the remanding tasteless residue ( soo called "solids") to companies involved with biodiesel, mixed into many other products (like baby formula) and stockfood. Consumers find the processors comments and products hard to swallow......

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