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  • #31
    Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

    I have had me machine for a couple of weeks seem to have the coffee part fine but the milk well Im trying to get mine as good or close to what I get at my local cafe, Can anyone tell me is that possible or have I got too bigger expectations for a domestic machine. Also Im trying to pour the lattes and cappachinos without the help of a spoon to get the froth in there but cant seem to get the milk at the right texture I end up with mainly warm milk and froth left in the bottom of the jug. All machine settings are still at the default jugs have been in the fridge tried a couple of diffrenet milks full creams, lites Im using a milk thermometer so temp is right. Thanks if anyone has any suggestions here.

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    • #32
      Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

      Unless your cafe makes truly magnificent coffee you should easily be able to match or better it with the machine you have. There are a lot of 6910 owners here, and I know they have been playing around with the settings to get the best results, Im sure one of them will let you know how to set your machine.

      In the meantime, just stick with the milk you most frequently use, in the smallest jug you have (300ml jug would be good) and fill it to just under where the spout starts. Turn the steam wand on over the drip tray to bleed water and wet steam away, turn off, put the tip of the steam wand in the jug and turn on again. Lower the jug until the wand is just under the surface of the milk and you can hear a ch-ch-ch sound. This stretches the milk. Then find the spot in the jug where the milk becomes a whirlpool, it will be off centre, and leave it there until the bottom of the jug is too hot for your fingertips. The milk should now be around 65C. You can put the tip of the wand a little deeper into the milk when you think it has stretched (frothy) enough, this will depend on whether you are making cappucinos (thicker froth) or lattes/flat whites (less froth). Turn off the steam, knock the jug once or twice on the bench to remove any large bubbles and swirl it around to make the froth shiny. Pour your milk.

      It takes time to get sort the milk part out, so really its just a case of practice. Have fun.

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      • #33
        Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

        with the high output settings it flies with milk - and you will get great MF with practice.

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        • #34
          Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

          yep...practice practice practice... when you nail the milk, youll be refocusing on perfecting the espresso pour.. Im really anal with pulling an espresso pour....

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          • #35
            Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

            I have had my 6910 for about 2 months now and was starting to get really frustrated with getting good micro foam. I was getting either bugger all or heaps of coarse foam. Then I had an idea.... I changed the angle of the steam tip to the milk.

            Previously I had been putting the tip at as flat an angle as I could to the milk. This resulted in the best whirlpool motion but gave me rubbish foam, couldnt even pour foam on two cups. To play with it I put the tip more straight down onto the milk (probably about 30 degrees from the vertical or 60 degrees to the surface of the milk). The whirlpool was less but the foam was wonderful. Poured two lovely lattes with really basic latte art - and it tasted fabulous.

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            • #36
              Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

              Good news Stew. Its a good feeling when you make progress!

              Practice makes perfect.

              I actually start at a larger angle then quickly straighten till I find the sweet spot. That is, a reasonable whirlpool which produces micro foam instead of froth. I said "quickly" because if Im too slow I end up with soap suds. I have set the 6910 to its fastest setting for steaming. Have you had a play with the programmable steam settings? They really do make a difference.


              Stew, after a while you will be able to make microfoam every time. Keep practicing!

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              • #37
                Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                Its easy when you know how... The hard part is learning how. I find that each person has a slightly different way of texturing milk. The best thing that I did was to do a latte art class at Epic where they taught how to achieve perfectly textured milk.

                Makes the art so much easier with well textured milk.

                Hang in there and keep honing the skills till it becomes second nature.

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                • #38
                  Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                  I find that the Em6910 steam very unforgiving... but when you get it right, you can produce awesome micro foam

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                  • #39
                    Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                    So Chris you are obviously in Perth - I am casting about for a good course to do, aimed at home machines an not commercials.  Any ideas?  Also where is good to try out better gear in Perth, have been to the place in Rivervale and also in Mt Hwathorn and found them both a bit unhelpful.

                    I am just amazed that such a small change made such a big difference.  I have played around with the dryness and temp settings and was using +10deg and -0.2sec until recently when I dialled it back to -0.1sec to see if that was my problem with rubbish foam.  What was starting to annoy me was that the old Sunbeam I had (EM5800), while it took 2 mins to change from brew to steam, was giving me OK results.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                      Stew, have the wetness set to "wet".. not "wetter".. and have the temp at +10deg..

                      have you done the sunbeam appreciate course?

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                      • #41
                        Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                        Stew, Yes I am in Perth.

                        How long have you had the machine for? I am pretty sure that Sunbeam are doing a coffee appreciation course with the purchase of a new machine. That is a good place to start as they run through the basics and how to get the best out the machine.

                        I would seriously head down to Epic though and have a chat with their staff when they are not busy. A few of the staff actually carry out some training for Sunbeam courses.

                        Doing the Epic espresso basics class is probably the best thing as they run through everything to get you started and achieving great coffee and the basics of milk texturing. Even if you know a lot about coffee it is great.

                        They conduct the class on commercial machines but relate it to home use as well. They may even have a "home" machine out the back that they could teach you on.

                        Best to drop in and have a chat with one.

                        But otherwise, change your settings as per marcstolk advice and gently is the key to good texture

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                        • #42
                          Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                          Originally posted by marcstolk link=1169352798/30#39 date=1178862649
                          Stew, have the wetness set to "wet".. not "wetter".. and have the temp at +10deg..  

                          have you done the sunbeam appreciate course?
                          Thats where I am set now and think I will leave it there for the time being (until every one I do is good).  I havent bothered with the Sunbeam course as I do envisage upgrading at some stage and want something that is general rather than machine specific.  It is easy to talk of upgrading when the 6910 came through the door for a favour to the Parents.

                          I will have to make time to get over to Epic (even if it just for a coffee), wish I worked in West Perth now rather than Burswood!

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                          • #43
                            Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                            Stew, although the sunbeam course is on sunbeam machines, I would still do the class as it is relevant to all machines.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                              Originally posted by chris002200 link=1169352798/30#42 date=1178863617
                              Stew, although the sunbeam course is on sunbeam machines, I would still do the class as it is relevant to all machines.
                              Agreed!

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                              • #45
                                Re: Frothing Milk with the EM6910

                                Unfortunately I didnt buy the machine it was a freebie to my parents who gave it to me for a favour I did for them.... means I cant get on their course, for free at least!

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