Three hole steam tips

[sprezzatura]

240V shuffle: accidentally touching exposed electrical connections or heating element terminals whilst poking around looking for leaks or adjusting something with the machine live.

Cold pitcher: place your milk steaming pitcher in the freezer. Then, when you are ready to steam milk , take it out. This gives you a little more time to texture milk. Keep your milk in the fridge until right before use too.

It's really a matter of time: time to texture. I have one hole on my Rancilio which gives me more time to texture glossy micro foam.

[Marc1]

Now you lost me ... the 240V shuffle? ... cold pitcher?
i know full cream is easier to froth. Yet I have textured 2% fat milk with no problems on my one hole little Sunbeam.
Is there a difference on the 4 holes when doing a full jar as compared to say half or less? waht about regulating the flow of steam down?

[sprezzatura]

Try the three hole, cold pitcher and fat milk.

[sprezzatura]

Hey, use full cream milk. Much more better. Skim milk is like trying to texture rice milk. Challenging.

[sprezzatura]

Well ... we are concerned with people doing the 240V shuffle. Most DIYers know that caveat though.

[Marc1]

Lol! Hey - you forgot to ask me: I'd be pleased to help you out. I'm a yes man. You got this.

If you don't like that 3 hole (I really like the 3 hole tip - use one now and then on an Expobar Multiboiler) take off the tip and jam a toothpick in one hole and try it as a two hole. If you really like it send a brad into it and clip it off at the surface. If water starts spitting out of the steam wand lower your water level probe (but be careful- it's as tricky as maintaining equilibrium in a fission reactor with a control rod, lol!)

Ha ha, sure ... there are probably two or three like you around that did not google the word snob to see what it means.

The tips are actually 4 holes.
I had a few more goes this weekend and the milk turned out average, probably a combination of using a small amount of milk ... just enough for two cups and the fact that we had only skim milk (hate that stuff, only hate almond milk even more)
May be I'll buy a few different tips from coffee parts to see the difference it makes.
The Corimali machine and the Rossi Grinder work like a charm.

[sprezzatura]

Yep, it has 4 holes. Funny how since I started to ask questions on this forum in relation to buying a commercial machine for my holiday place, all I got was naysayers discouragement.
Every single question was met with one form or another of this being the wrong choice.Well ... I bought a commercial machine second hand,shipped it interstate, got it serviced sitting on a table on my back veranda, hooked up to my garden hose. Paid for a new pump and for a second grade service by a second grade technician, got no answers to the most basic question here.
Installed it in my weekender and very proud of it, since it happened to be as easy as installing a dishwasher despite the naaaa all around here. Now it is working on its first few coffees and I asked how to lift the water level ....
Yes, you got it, no answer in 5 days. Never mind, figured out by myself. Big whoop ... Loosen one screw and pull up a sensor and tighten the screw back...
And now I ask how to froth the milk with this steam wand whit 3 holes that turned out to be 4 ... Naaaaaa I can't do it!
No way can this ignorant petulant greenhorn be able to make a decent froth with a commercial machine !!! Naaaa go back to a Target machine for the next 10 years, may be you learn and then come back and ask again.
Yes I bet it is so hard that I'll learn in the next day or two.
Sad really.

Lol! Hey - you forgot to ask me: I'd be pleased to help you out. I'm a yes man. You got this.

If you don't like that 3 hole (I really like the 3 hole tip - use one now and then on an Expobar Multiboiler) take off the tip and jam a toothpick in one hole and try it as a two hole. If you really like it send a brad into it and clip it off at the surface. If water starts spitting out of the steam wand lower your water level probe (but be careful- it's as tricky as maintaining equilibrium in a fission reactor with a control rod, lol!)

[TC]

My experience is that there are very few poorly designed tips: 2,3 or 4 hole. There are however plenty of examples poor technique!

Agreed that smaller holes often well suited to those on a more powerful machine...

[readeral]

I say that for someone on the Lowe two digit scale you are catching up to the snob spirit rather quick. The ignore button is default here. Tolerance for answers?what does that even mean? What answers? The one I got for complaining about attitude?

"Joined 2007" He's clearly been around for long enough, reading plenty of posts from new members (like myself I might add) making fools of ourselves.

Noidle22 really did offer you a suggestion. You wanted to "regulate the flow of steam", and his suggestion was to regulate with a 2 hole steam tip... or to practice. No need to take offence at that. I'd prefer soak in all the suggestions around here, rather than turning my nose up at them.

In my steaming troubles, I went and read a few other threads that had plenty enough information for me not to comment on another one. I'm getting better, not there yet, but have been enjoying myself.

[Marc1]

Greenhorn has no tolerance for answers he does not want to hear.

Time for the ignore button to be implemented.

I say that for someone on the low two digit scale you are catching up to the snob spirit rather quick. The ignore button is default here. Tolerance for answers?what does that even mean? What answers? The one I got for complaining about attitude?

[Marc1]

Edit: I'll give you some actual advice with the 4 hole tip as I realise I have neglected to do so.
Don't bother with trying to make a whirlpool, there's too much power. Keep the tip submerged at all time and focus on keeping the milk moving in a consistent fashion, hard to describe. The sheer volume of steam entering the milk will take care of the microfoam usually.
Also, I'm not a barista nor have extensive experience with commercial machines. I've used enough of them to get a basic idea though.
Maybe a barista will chime in with some other tips.

That wasn't too hard...simple thank you.

[shortblackman]

I'd say you're steaming pretty well already.

[noidle22]

Not sure what your problem is, sorry that people didn't reply to your questions in a timely manner I guess? I struggle to take seriously whiny rants on internet forums.

I have offered you the advice that if you swap to a 2 hole steam tip, you will have an easier time steaming the milk and get consistently good results.
If you practice enough with the 4 hole tip, I'm sure you will get good results too.

Change to a 2 hole tip or keep at it with the 4 hole tip, I don't really care.

Edit: I'll give you some actual advice with the 4 hole tip as I realise I have neglected to do so.
Don't bother with trying to make a whirlpool, there's too much power. Keep the tip submerged at all time and focus on keeping the milk moving in a consistent fashion, hard to describe. The sheer volume of steam entering the milk will take care of the microfoam usually.
Also, I'm not a barista nor have extensive experience with commercial machines. I've used enough of them to get a basic idea though.
Maybe a barista will chime in with some other tips.

[GreenBeanGenii]

Greenhorn has no tolerance for answers he does not want to hear.

Time for the ignore button to be implemented.

[Marc1]

I found that the three hole tips were suitable for small to medium power machines only. A large commercial machine which usually has a 4 hole, sometimes more, steam tip for fast steaming is impractical for home use, particularly if you are inexperienced with commercial machines.The three hole tip on a commercial machine will still be emitting too much steam I would think.I advise swapping the tip for a two hole tip, available from Coffee Parts. This will limit the steam output capacity and make it much easier to control.

Yep, it has 4 holes. Funny how since I started to ask questions on this forum in relation to buying a commercial machine for my holiday place, all I got was naysayers discouragement.
Every single question was met with one form or another of this being the wrong choice.Well ... I bought a commercial machine second hand,shipped it interstate, got it serviced sitting on a table on my back veranda, hooked up to my garden hose. Paid for a new pump and for a second grade service by a second grade technician, got no answers to the most basic question here.
Installed it in my weekender and very proud of it, since it happened to be as easy as installing a dishwasher despite the naaaa all around here. Now it is working on its first few coffees and I asked how to lift the water level ....
Yes, you got it, no answer in 5 days. Never mind, figured out by myself. Big whoop ... Loosen one screw and pull up a sensor and tighten the screw back...
And now I ask how to froth the milk with this steam wand whit 3 holes that turned out to be 4 ... Naaaaaa I can't do it!
No way can this ignorant petulant greenhorn be able to make a decent froth with a commercial machine !!! Naaaa go back to a Target machine for the next 10 years, may be you learn and then come back and ask again.
Yes I bet it is so hard that I'll learn in the next day or two.
Sad really.