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  • Too much coffee= heart problems.

    Unfortunately my love for coffee has betrayed me . It appears that for myself 4-5 cups of espresso a day is too much. I started having palpitations and feeling very unwell and lethargic which is no good in the middle of summer working outdoors. It started about october last year and I had all sorts of tests done including ECGs, ultrasounds, stress tests and a holter monitor but unfortunately I never had "an episode",as they call it, during the tests so the doctors couldnt pick it up. I ran my own tests and it seems that Ive developed a sensitivity to caffeine cause when I didnt drink coffee for a few days, the symptoms would stop and when I got back on it, itd happen again. So unfortunately I had to try decaf. Yep not the greatest thing in the world but it still tastes slightly better than instant... just. Ive done some blending of a few different types and have tried all sorts and have finally discovered some decaf that tastes pretty close to the real thing (even my mates who are snobs agree).
    But the good news is I can finally drink a few cups of real coffee  ;D every week now and Im loving it. Anyway just thought Id share my experience with you and see whether anyone else has had a similar experience and if so, did you find out what the problem was? Docs keep telling me Im not in any danger and that my heart is actually quite healthy but Id be interested to hear of your experiences all the same.
    Thats my rave, cheers, Mike.

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    Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

    Originally posted by 3F292A283F29293F3E05332905383F292E5A0 link=1254996023/0#0 date=1254996023
    I had to try decaf. Yep not the greatest thing in the world but it still tastes slightly better than instant... just
    <<<<<<<< decaf WOW...best decaf there is without a doubt...

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    • #3
      Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

      I think I recall someone suggesting blending Decaf WOW with another bean from the snobbery to create a low-caf blend as well?

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      • #4
        Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

        Ive been pretty impressed with Decaf WOW, and if the Mocha Java decaf ever reappears Ill be stocking up as that was brilliant too. Also blended half decaf WOW with half Ethiopian Gambella Naturals for a half-caf, and that tasted like a bit of a winner. granted I probably dont have the best palate, but I cant see how these decafs dont at least equal the majority of coffee out there.

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        • #5
          Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

          This topic is very interesting to me as the Missus suffers from AF now and then. She has been hooked up to an ECG when actually in AF and she knows the feeling of an AF session when they occur. Not good but sadly as some folks get older they are more are susceptible to such. And yes she can certainly vouch for her over indulgence of coffee starting an AF. Decaff is o.k and does not cause the problem. But with caffeine she must her limit herself to 2 cups over a day.
          Her worst AF session was on our coffee capers in South Island of N.Z. last January. Such fun...She will never forget her stay in Timaru and the beating that occured after her "enjoyable" binge on caffeine that day.
          So it is WOW or Mocha Java decaff at night for us and they are great.
          So with caffeine vs decaff coffee in mind we do a lot of reading about coffee and AF etc. Colins Binns Professor of Public Health , School of Public Health at Curtin University Perth recently wrote in an article titled "Should Nutrtiontists Recommend Tea or Coffee?" that "a recent review of epidemological studies concluded that no clear association between coffee and the risk of hypertension, myocardial infarction or other cardivascular disease can be demonstrated. In considering guidelines for tea and coffee consumption a maximum intake of caffeine of 400 mg per day is recommended and not associated with any adverse effects. This is equivalent to approximately 4-5 cups of coffee or 13 cups of tea per day". Enjoy in moderation if needs be. ;D

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          • #6
            Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

            http://www.energyfiend.com/death-by-caffeine

            not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but for those without sensitivity to caffiene we can see how much it would take to kill us Probably less for the OP...

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            • #7
              Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

              phwoar makes me think I should slow down a bit =P I think on a bender I could take 140+ shots of espresso.. mm..

              Seen that Futurama episode where Fry drinks 100 coffees? Bwaha..

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              • #8
                Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

                Just remember; DE Caff is not Caffeine free

                Many things have caffeine in them and some people just dont get it... My wife works (if ya could call it that) in a cardiac centre and does all the stress tests etc..

                Note: Every thing in moderation......

                For many tests they require you to stop ingesting caffeine for at least 24 hr prior to the test.. SO many people get turned away because that had DeCaff or any number of drinks and food (often sweets) that contain caffeine.... As they can get it in their head that a DeCaff is only that - LOW doses and not FREE of the drug. Also some are not as low as others...

                Many also point at this great drug and say it causes xxxx when some times it is not the caffeine but other chemicals etc...

                One person cam in and they were doing it bad with the withdrawals... Their comment was NO cant drink coffee the caffeine in it gives me AF.. However they were also heavy tea and coke drinkers, with teh odd V.. DOH..

                A trigger in the coffee maybe.. But I doubt the caffeine - IN THIS CASE...

                People will often say they can not drink espresso but happy to have heaps of instant ???

                Thus I think the topic is interesting... But many forget coffee is not coffee and neither is the level of Caffeine... Thus I would lofe to be able to quickly test the levels in my shots as I recon that at times it would be not much higher than some of teh DeCaff that gets around.

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                • #9
                  Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

                  Ill have to check out this Decaf WOW you speak of! Herbie, interesting facts... if only it were true for all of us. As I said before, I used to drink that amount but now there is no way I could do it. Even though the doctors couldnt pick up anything on the monitors, I believe I suffer from AF as well. Ive done plenty of research on it and there is a history of it in my family so theres a fair chance its what Im experiencing. A friend of mine also suffers from it but coffee doesnt set his off for some reason BUT he does drink Australian coffee which I believe has a lower caffeine content. Ive searched for info on Aussie coffee caffeine percentages but have so far been unsuccessful. I did however stumble across a website that said Scientists have genetically engineered a coffee plant to grow without ANY caffeine at all which would be great because as we all know its the process of extracting the caffeine is what ruins the flavour.
                  Anyway cheers all for your input, Mike.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

                    If you are sensitive to caffeine overdose I have one word for you--RISTRETTO.
                    More flavour, less caffeine.
                    (Of course a second word would be moderation. But be moderate in that. ;D)

                    Greg

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                      Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

                      Originally posted by 192C3B3909312C333F323A5E0 link=1254996023/9#9 date=1255091030
                      If you are sensitive to caffeine overdose I have one word for you--RISTRETTO.
                      More flavour, less caffeine.
                      (Of course a second word would be moderation. But be moderate in that. ;D)

                      Greg
                      I agree in Full Greg..

                      Thus the reason that I use a large basket, run a double but pull short...

                      Great coffee, less caffeine and as an additional plus; it means I can have more :-)  

                      (In moderation of course not like Java "I have no will power" Phile.....)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

                        Ok thanks guys. I never knew that, I mean I know a ristretto shot has more flavour but I didnt know it had less caffeine. I was under the impression that the longer the water was in the coffee for then the more caffeine came out of it? Ive read that plunger coffee has almost twice the amount as espresso. Is this true or am I on the wrong track? Ill give it a go, thanks.

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                          Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

                          Originally posted by 0412111304121204053E08123E03041215610 link=1254996023/11#11 date=1255306322
                          I was under the impression that the longer the water was in the coffee then the more caffeine came out of it? Ive read that plunger coffee has almost twice the amount as espresso. Is this true or am I on the wrong track?

                          Both true.
                          And no. 1 helps explain why a short ristretto (which has a very short contact time with the water) is lower in caffeine than a basic espresso.

                          Greg

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                          • #14
                            Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

                            Fred, I know where you are coming from. If I had 4 coffees a day I would have AF also. (have done in the past) One does build a degree of tolerance over time for some substances but it is all about Individual subsceptibilities. Factors like body mass are also relevant. What is fine for you may be too much for me. The key is to find what works for you. I would like to have a few espressos a day but I know the result will be unpleasant and not worth the initial pleasure, so I have one when I will most enjoy it and look forward to the next one.
                            I believe I have built some tolerance over the last couple of years so there IS some light on the horizon. I should add that I find the symptoms more unpleasant if I am not well hydrated and have something in my stomach.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Too much coffee= heart problems.

                              Fred.
                              Find myself in the same boat from time to time depending on level of over indulgence. I was monitored as well, but in my case the palpitations were in fact muscle spasms darting across the chest in reaction to very high acidity levels / heartburn, etc.

                              Diet, sleep, stress, newborn(s), 8 dbl shots a day, all mixed together did it for me. Hopefully, its the same thing for you, if it is....easy peazy...I now keep the coffee down to around 3 a day and when things flare up again, I use over the counter tabs for a week or two....then Im back in the game!

                              Good luck

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