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  • #16
    Re: Coffee powered cars

    Dennis,
    I would say that greed and corruption are the reasons that oil based fuels became the norm in the past, starting with Rockefeller and his high powered political friends. However I do agree it is a very easy fuel to transport and implement and does have its place. The same forces are still at work today, i am sure big oil dont want us to use a fuel that we can generate at home for our own use, cutting them out of the supply chain (profit). Take the EV1 electric car for instance, the electric car built by GM in the 80s. 20,000 of them were made and leased out to the general public. They proved so popular that Exxon (Rockefellers old Stadard Oil.) payed off GM, to cover all costs, to take back all the cars from satisfied customers who even offered to buy them outright, sometimes these were reposessed under armed police escort. This car cost 10% of the cost of fuel to run and produced less overall pollution (taking into account electricity generation). Big oil saw a threat to their profits and squashed the competition, regardless of environmental impact. Look where GM is now thanks to their alliance with big oil, suckers. If a company as big as General Motors can be scammed like this, imagine what is happening to us little people.
    Conspiracy theory is a term generally thrown out there when someone has something to hide, trying to discredit the people in opposition and portraying them as nutters. It is certainly not a "conspiracy theory" that if we can generate our own electricity at home, cheaply and cleanly, and use it for 95% of our transport needs, that the big oil companies will lose their grasp on massive profits (US $50 billion for exxon last year).
    James.

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    • #17
      Re: Coffee powered cars

      Bassway,
      Read more carefully, i wrote "Average".

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      • #18
        Re: Coffee powered cars

        Originally posted by james74 link=1229204780/0#16 date=1229405948
        Bassway,
        Read more carefully, i wrote "Average".
        Sorry, I guess my point is customer choice. Americans and Aussies are choosing inefficient cars.

        On the other point "
        Car manufacturers are already bust thanks to relying on 100 year old technology with no improvement in efficiency."

        A Model T ford had no ABS, disk brakes, crumple zones, air con, starter motor to weigh it down. With a 20.2 hp (15kW) motor it got 25mpg.
        In fact the model T Ford got between 13 and 21 mpg NOT 25mpg or 11 to 18L/100kms.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T
        I get into my with all the heavy mod cons and with a 80kw engine I get 4.8L/100kms.

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