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  • No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee :o

    Originally posted by 61574C531657250 link=1250739532/6#6 date=1250772030
    We work from home, so believe me, time taken making coffee is money lost.
    "Work / Life balance".

    I get paid a lot of money where I work and the boss doesnt mind my taking a coffee break twice a day.

    I still deliver my 8 hours a day but recharge a couple of times in order to deliver to my (and his) high standards.

    If you arent working 24/7 then it doesnt wash with me that you cant squeeze in some time for coffee.

    Im a process auditor, so if you can prove it to me Im willing to be corrected.

    What it boils down to (pun intended) is you starting 15 minutes earlier to fit in the first coffee and working back an extra 15 to accommodate a 2nd one.

    How much money are you losing in toilet breaks????  :


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    Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

    Originally posted by 03352E317435470 link=1250739532/8#8 date=1250777143
    Oh I take mine espresso! the rest of my family use milk. Espresso all the way for me!
    And

    Originally posted by 03352E317435470 link=1250739532/6#6 date=1250772030
    The reason im looking for automatic is that we dont have time making it ourselves. We work from home, so believe me, time taken making coffee is money lost.
    I am working from home, but unless I was trading on the stock floor and a few seconds away from the screen meant loosing money... Or I was in a hospital and operating on some one... I do not see how a few moments away is going to cost you money / output....

    Be it a formal break or just a quick coffee, the time away from the screen and or communication with outers is a big part of being truly productive and team work..

    It is not that we hate Autos... They have a place, but your implied use and assumptions as to what it will involve / Cost Vs Userbility and functionality appears to be missing some key information / data.

    Maybe there is more to what your doing at home... But I can not think or what, that would require the output / TAT..

    However it is your choice...

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    • #3
      Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

      Originally posted by 46706B743170020 link=1250739532/6#6 date=1250772030
      The reason im looking for automatic is that we dont have time making it ourselves.
      One of the things I like best is the calming nature of the ritual. Making a coffee on a manual machine really doesnt take long and is quite an enjoyable timeout.

      As a society, we complain of not having enough time yet we have more leisure time now that we have ever had in history. We work less, have equipment and appliances that make life easier (cars, dishwashers, automatic washing machines, etc).

      Cast a critical eye on your true work cycle and hopefully, youll surprise yourself with a few minutes you found for coffee.


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      • #4
        Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

        Originally posted by 77425B510504320 link=1250739532/13#13 date=1250815309
        we have more leisure time now that we have ever had in history.We work less
        Id have to disagree...and so would statistical evidence. We actually work longer hours than our parents did.

        DRIV3R, if you happen to live in Sydney, youre welcome to call in to our shop (cuppacoffee). Ill show you how you can make an espresso from scratch in 35 seconds or less and add another 10 for milk based drinks.

        If you dont have that much time to spare, and time is too precious, then you have the money to employ someone in your home/office, and occupy them with a combination of admin and coffee making duties.





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        • #5
          Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

          Originally posted by 4A6B6060677D0E0 link=1250739532/14#14 date=1250816286
          We actually work longer hours than our parents did.
          Well have to agree to disagree on that one

          In Australia between 1974 and 1997 there has been no appreciable change in working hours one way, rather a significant redistribution along gender lines. Beyond that time frame however, there has been a reduction.

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          • #6
            Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

            Stats show the aggregate monthly hours have increased over the last 24 years. This would suggest that at least some of us are working longer hours/

            http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats/meisubs.nsf/0/4E14A82D554588E0CA2576090017642C/$File/62020_jul%202009.pdf


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            • #7
              Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

              Disagree all you like Epic. Dont know where you get your stats from. Mine are from the ABS....

              "Average weekly hours worked for full-time and part-time workers have increased over the last two decades. Full-time working hours for men increased by 1.9 hours per week to 43.2 hours between 1985 and 2005 and for women by 1.7 hours to 39.3 hours. Part-time hours worked by men increased 0.7 hours to 16.4 hours over the same period and for women by 1.4 hours to 16.9 hours per week."

              http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mediareleasesbyTopic/E111F049FC1C810ECA2571B0008274B2?OpenDocument

              Sorry to be OT - just couldnt let that go! ;D

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              • #8
                Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

                "There has been a slight decline in the average weekly hours worked by all Australian workers over the last two decades. The decline in average hours is the result of....."

                Source: YOUR quoted source (ABS)  http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@....2!OpenDocument

                Youre quoting cherry-picked data subsets in an attempt to support your belief Dennis.  Ever considered a career in politics?


                Flynn,
                  The graph youve posted depicts aggregate hours.  Total hours worked in the economy as opposed to average hours worked per person, thats why the X axis is in the millions.  Id definately need a cuppa after working 1,600,000,000 hours!   :P

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                • #9
                  Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

                  Originally posted by 794C555F0B0A3C0 link=1250739532/18#18 date=1250820785
                  Flynn,
                  The graph youve posted depicts aggregate hours.Total hours worked in the economy as opposed to average hours worked per person, thats why the X axis is in the millions.Id definately need a cuppa after working 1,600,000,000 hours!
                  Yes, I grabbed a stat quickly and should have checked it more throughly but Den found a more telling one; the one I was looking for. But stats could settle this argument, not sure about cherry picked as it is based on census data, not sample. What are you basing yours on? Personal experience?

                  Originally posted by 794C555F0B0A3C0 link=1250739532/13#13 date=1250815309
                  yet we have more leisure time now that we have ever had in history

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                  • #10
                    Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

                    Wow, take it easy guys, whats with personal attacks? no need to copy and paste my own comments for me, i know what i said. Let me clarify my working situation before you take your shotguns out and shoot me for seeking help in choosing a coffee machine!

                    Home based business=Contracted construction site, we are all dipped in dirt, have lunch and coffee breaks but most people want to take their coffee and go sit where they want, we tried making our own but ended up with ready made coffee!

                    Its not about taking time and no i disagree with you, its not 35 sec for espresso and add 10 sec for milk, are you kidding me? I suppose you forgot about cleaning, washing up, preparing, then moving aside for the next person to make their own coffee, its just not possible, not to mention we have to washup before touching the fridge.

                    Guys instead of being judgmental, be realistic, not everyone is working infront of laptop or have a desk job.

                    I do pretty ok with earning money but i cannot justify an extra employee to make coffee for us. Frankly, i thought i would get better advice in here!

                    Thanks to those who gave some advice eg Java.

                    I will just go to Clive Peters or HN store and pick something up.

                    Cheers

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                    • #11
                      Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

                      Originally posted by 565C495E5E514543300 link=1250739532/19#19 date=1250822265
                      Originally posted by 794C555F0B0A3C0 link=1250739532/18#18 date=1250820785
                      Flynn,
                      The graph youve posted depicts aggregate hours.Total hours worked in the economy as opposed to average hours worked per person, thats why the X axis is in the millions.Id definately need a cuppa after working 1,600,000,000 hours!
                      Yes, I grabbed a stat quickly and should have checked it more throughly but Den found a more telling one; the one I was looking for. But stats could settle this argument, not sure about cherry picked as it is based on census data, not sample. What are you basing yours on? Personal experience?

                      Originally posted by 794C555F0B0A3C0 link=1250739532/13#13 date=1250815309
                      yet we have more leisure time now that we have ever had in history
                      This is all off topic and is BIASED what ever way you want to look at it...

                      1: I work many more hrs than ever before..

                      2: I also have more leisure time due to availability and technology

                      3: My work hrs is not always 9 - 5 and my leisure is not always on the weekends, OT and other additional hrs, are not always recorded in any formal process...

                      4: Stats have also changed with the changes in jobs and job profiles.. Issues of stand ars and ADO / RDO and other arrangements complicate the stats and make it very easy for one to access the data one needs to drive a particular focus...

                      A mod needs to move this to OT... ASAP..


                      One needs to compare Apples with Apples..

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                      • #12
                        Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

                        Originally posted by 76405B440140320 link=1250739532/20#20 date=1250822646
                        Wow, take it easy guys, whats with personal attacks? no need to copy and paste my own comments for me, i know what i said. Let me clarify my working situation before you take your shotguns out and shoot me for seeking help in choosing a coffee machine!

                        Home based business=Contracted construction site, we are all dipped in dirt, have lunch and coffee breaks but most people want to take their coffee and go sit where they want, we tried making our own but ended up with ready made coffee!

                        Its not about taking time and no i disagree with you, its not 35 sec for espresso and add 10 sec for milk, are you kidding me? I suppose you forgot about cleaning, washing up, preparing, then moving aside for the next person to make their own coffee, its just not possible, not to mention we have to washup before touching the fridge.

                        Guys instead of being judgmental, be realistic, not everyone is working infront of laptop or have a desk job.

                        I do pretty ok with earning money but i cannot justify an extra employee to make coffee for us. Frankly, i thought i would get better advice in here!

                        Thanks to those who gave some advice eg Java.

                        I will just go to Clive Peters or HN store and pick something up.

                        Cheers
                        Quoting is not meant as an insult or tossing in your face... It helps to put things into context..  

                        The advice being provided is Realistic... It is from experience  8-)  and every machine requires

                        " cleaning, washing up, preparing, then moving aside for the next person to make their own coffee, its just not possible, not to mention we have to washup before touching the fridge."

                        Automatics inparticular are very touchy if not fully maintained..  

                        You never mentioned a Construction company before... Just ya family... This is the extra context that is needed if you want value added responses... Thus I implied in post 12... But never clarified by You...

                        If this was detailed at the out set... Then you would have revived different answers..

                        In addition, Autos are not going to solve teh cup problem; unless you use disposables and they can still be used on a manual / semi auto machine.. Then you have to manage all teh milk scum and follow a ridgid cleaning process... Just read teh Users manual... RTFM  

                        However, the final decision is all yours and considering your  lack of detail and the response when you did not get what YOU wanted...  I am glad I do not work Clive Peters or HN..

                        Best of luck in your new adventures...

                        I cant be botherd..  Ignore option activated.





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                        • #13
                          Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

                          lol Driv3r. I havent noticed any personal attacks here, but each to their own perception.

                          If you can find a machine from HN or anyone else that makes a good espresso, does the cleaning/washing, etc. let me know - I want one!

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                          • #14
                            Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee

                            Originally posted by 11273C236627550 link=1250739532/20#20 date=1250822646
                            Wow, take it easy guys, whats with personal attacks? no need to copy and paste my own comments for me, i know what i said.
                            Hmmm..I dont see persoanl attacks, robust debate maybe . Quoting is valid as it saves readers from going back and reading what they said and allows them to see how the respondant may have interpreted it. So allow me to remind you of this:


                            Originally posted by 11273C236627550 link=1250739532/0#0 date=1250739532
                            Guys, im saying thank you in advance for any kind of reply.
                            Only because "you asked for it" ;D


                            Originally posted by 143B32302718343B34323038303B21550 link=1250739532/21#21 date=1250822749
                            This is all off topic
                            Nope, the OP said
                            dont have time
                            .

                            Time is a criterion in Driv3rs choice of machine and is what we have been discussing, though perhaps veering a little off-course.

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                            • #15
                              Re: No time to Smell the Roses; or make a Coffee


                              The way I read it, everything in this thread would be more appropriate in the humour section. ;D

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