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  • #31
    Re: Children and cafes

    Originally posted by 7E64726767130 link=1210652095/513#513 date=1255559924
    As for the babycino thing, are they really any more annoying to make than a macchiato?
    I think its a psychological thing.

    Originally posted by 7E64726767130 link=1210652095/513#513 date=1255559924
    But dont worry, I wont be ordering them any time soon.
    Fine by me!

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    • #32
      Re: Children and cafes

      Originally posted by 4B7E696B5B637E616D60680C0 link=1210652095/504#504 date=1255509028
      Originally posted by 777D7E757268657079721C0 link=1210652095/503#503 date=1255507499
      Short of connecting it to a live electrical wire, how do you stop them spreading it all over the counter? (both parents and children)
      Tell them its Health Department Regulations--Customers shall not touch the food preparation equipment. ;D


      Greg
      ^^^ This
      Or even just "Its not our policy for health reasons." And a dirty counter, to me, is a fair enough health reason. Other patrons have the right to pick up their coffees without getting chocolate "undersprinkles" and unless they wipe down after they dust, its not fair on the next customer.

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      • #33
        Re: Children and cafes

        Hows this for a thought....if I have a coffee shop in a high mumsy area I would do the bubbicinos for free....wouldnt that help bring in the mums who usually like not only a coffee but a nice bit of (expensive) slice...

        Cheers

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        • #34
          Re: Children and cafes

          Originally posted by 2832243131450 link=1210652095/513#513 date=1255559924
          The thing is, if you saw us on one of those days, how quick would you be to lump us with the other end of the spectrum?
          When you propose that question, I would be guilty of lumping you quickly into that other end of the spectrum. But I think from this moment onwards, the points you have made have definitely been instilled in a sense, in to my memory.

          Hopefully, I can learn from what youve shared and not be so quick to judge.

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          • #35
            Re: Children and cafes

            Strictly as another customer--If you cannot/do not control your child TODAY, no matter what the usual is, please do not expect me to put up with their behaviour. Thats just rude of YOU.

            Please leave and take them with you. They may deserve your anger for messing up your day, I dont deserve to have mine messed.

            Greg
            "Raised in a more polite time--my kids too."

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            • #36
              Re: Children and cafes

              Everyone had a breath? Good... that feels better.


              As a parent, nothing makes me prouder than my kids being perfect little angels when we are out (which in my eyes and prob not even through rose coloured glasses, is everytime we are out)

              As a customer, nothing gets my back-up faster than someone elses brats climbing the walls and spoiling it for everyone around them while their snooty "kids hamper our social life" parents ignore whats happening.

              ...and I dearly love when even my 4 year old says "those kids over there are naughty".

              Yes, kids are kids but in an adult place they need to be little adults. Take em to kids places if they cannot sit still for 10 minutes. Taking a hyper kid to an adult place is unfair on everyone including the bored kids.

              Back on the topic of bubby-choca-chios I had never heard of free ones until someone wrote it in a CS thread once. I would never expect them to be free and would far prefer to pay for a small sized, luke warm drink. Heck, I think nothing of paying for corkage, cakeage and other similar fair user pays charges at a restaurant.

              So whats the agreed fair price for a kid drink? I think $2 for a half a cup of steamed milk is fine/fair.

              Originally posted by 50454C5C504B4B3F0 link=1255085378/32#32 date=1255572264
              Hows this for a thought....if I have a coffee shop in a high mumsy area I would do the bubbicinos for free....wouldnt that help bring in the mums who usually like not only a coffee but a nice bit of (expensive) slice...
              I can only guess that free bubbicinos are being offered only for that reason, surely the business is in business to make money and they hope that the freebie will encourage others sales.

              How about a cafe with kids toys, a play area and the whole place decked-out in bright primary colours looking like playschool? I wonder if any of those mums would actually want to go there or if they are going to a cafe for an adult experience?

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              • #37
                Re: Children and cafes

                Im sensing theres some baristas in this thread that
                a. are not parents
                b. have forgotten they work in a service industry.



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                • #38
                  Re: Children and cafes


                  Just for the record, I have four children, one grandchild, and another on the way.

                  I love working in the service industry, but I am not a servant.

                  This morning a Mum and Dad came in and had their coffee, and I got to hold their 10 month old daughter, Elsie for a little while. I love having the opportunity to do that sort of thing.

                  I serve chocolate or strawberry sipper straws with a glass of milk for $2.00. Mini hot choc for $1.50.

                  Having thought about this since starting this thread, I actually have a problem serving babycinos and charging $1.50 because its MY perception that Im not providing any value, so perhaps half the time I dont charge (yes, its MY problem).

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                  • #39
                    Re: Children and cafes

                    Originally posted by 1A2F383A0A322F303C31395D0 link=1255085378/34#34 date=1255604145
                    "Raised in a more polite time--my kids too."
                    Ah, I love this line. Right, and which generation raised this current generation of parents? And which generation was it that has taken away nearly all the rights of current parents to discipline their children? Thought so. Its interesting too, that none of the older generation care to offer advice on parenting, but rather just criticism and judgement.

                    Im also intrigued its mostly menfolk who are taking this line :-?

                    As I said initially, if my kids start to lose it, we leave. I actually think my kids are pretty damn good, and I think the number of CSers who have met them would mostly agree with me. I expect far more of them in terms of behavioural standards than anybody else does.

                    I just wanted to encourage people to be a little bit more generous in their attitudes towards mothers, and at least demonstrate a little understanding, rather than assuming they must be hopeless parents who dont give a rats about interrupting your experience.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Children and cafes

                      Originally posted by 545C55505A50564C4A390 link=1255085378/7#7 date=1255308923
                      and it was always going to be crap cause you didnt even tamp
                      dont assume this. assumption is the mother of most stuff-ups.

                      Originally posted by 7E4B5C5E6E564B5458555D390 link=1255085378/34#34 date=1255604145
                      If you cannot/do not control your child TODAY, no matter what the usual is, please do not expect me to put up with their behaviour. Thats just rude of YOU.
                      So next time my friend Sam, a single mum, is doing her shopping, and has her two children with her, your right "not to have your day interrupted" is something you consider more important than the "right of the family to buy food to put on the table", when theyre kicking and screaming.

                      ..and the reason theyre kicking and screaming, ADHD. but you wouldnt know that, because youve already judged both the kids and the mother. it doesnt help that when the kids are well behaved, the school theyre at gives them sugar as a reward, so they come home completely hyped.

                      ...or perhaps it also doesnt help that instead of giving kids a nice glass of warm foamy milk, some places insist on adding sugar, sweeteners and e-numbers to milk to make it fall within their definition of value.

                      apparently its only okay not to have sugar with your coffee when youre an adult (and have developed a high tolerance to the stuff).

                      likewise michelle, I respect your right not to order babycinos (and think youre a rocking mum, having seen you out with your kids more than once!

                      ...and in the friend example, often it wouldve been me you saw them with, trying to give their mum a break. but you wouldve judged me likewise.

                      woeful.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Children and cafes

                        In the interests of trying to stay nice, how about we not let things get personal :-?

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                        • #42
                          Re: Children and cafes

                          Originally posted by 18393232352F5C0 link=1255085378/37#37 date=1255665336
                          Just for the record, I have four children, one grandchild, and another on the way.

                          I love working in the service industry, but I am not a servant.
                          Right, youre off the hook then, now get back to making me laugh with your witticisms in Barista Venting.  

                          $1.50 for a babycino is ok value in my book.  My son gets to sit there and act like an adult, sipping from a cup with a beverage that looks similar to mine... and its not full of sugar.  He loves a hot chocolate too, but sometimes I just prefer him to stay away from sugar.  

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                          • #43
                            Re: Children and cafes

                            Originally posted by 4669637E070 link=1255085378/35#35 date=1255663203
                            How about a cafe with kids toys, a play area and the whole place decked-out in bright primary colours looking like playschool?  I wonder if any of those mums would actually want to go there or if they are going to a cafe for an adult experience?  
                            If it has good coffee, Im there.

                            If it doesnt, Ill just take them to the park, thanks.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Children and cafes

                              Originally posted by 18475F494249454C4C4F4F474B442A0 link=1255085378/40#40 date=1255667680
                              In the interests of trying to stay nice, how about we not let things get personal
                              to late 2mcm
                              I think as long as there are baristas who dont like making babychinos and mums on here who like ordering them(rightfully so).......then there will be arguments, ive got the answer, if you dont like serving the public with what they want, dont. Get out of the industry, its your choice to stand behind that counter, there are rude people everywhere, its life, some just think they are better than everyone else, its a fact of life, and if you cant laugh at it?, take it on the chin?......maybe its time for a career change?
                              Id also like to add, i treat baristas with respect, the good ones are amazing to watch, they show passion and a love for what they do, something i envy, in the industry you have to laugh at typical human behaviour ;D

                              my 2 cents (dont kill me) (ducks for cover) :P

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                              • #45
                                Re: Children and cafes

                                First off Id like to apologise for seemingly have aimed my comments at those who quite clearly dont deserve them.

                                Originally posted by 62786E7B7B0F0 link=1255085378/38#38 date=1255665814
                                GregWormald wrote on Yesterday at 21:25:
                                "Raised in a more polite time--my kids too."


                                Ah, I love this line. Right, and which generation raised this current generation of parents? And which generation was it that has taken away nearly all the rights of current parents to discipline their children?
                                My kids are both in their mid-40s--Ill blame them. ;D

                                Actually, in using the word "time" I was referring to a time in history rather than identifying a "generation". And I must refuse to take any responsibility for taking away personal responsibilities. I work in an area where personal responsibility is completely necessary and I would never have voted in any way to reduce it, nor am I able to take responsibility for how any generation handles itself--I have enough trouble just handling me!

                                Im also not blaming the kids, they are too young to have responsibility for their own behaviour--both practically and legally that belongs with the parents, the schools, and with what they see and hear every day.

                                I feel very lucky to have been raised as a "baby boomer", in a time where kids were appreciated, and when parents were supported in their efforts to raise children into responsible adults.

                                Greg

                                Now--time for a coffee.

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