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  • #16
    Personally, i put "Function" before "Form" .
    If this m/c produces the cup it makers intended it to, then it wouldnt matter if it looked like a trash can for all i care.
    Few "Pro-sumer" espresso machines have much visual attraction beyond a shiney surface, with only the occasional one displaying a hint of a curved surface, so its not as if this will be an "ugly duckling" amongst a flock of swans.

    Hmm?.. do i detect a possible business opportunity along the lines of aftermarket "customized " bodywork for many of these SS boxes ??

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    • #17
      I think we should wait until we see the final product before we start commenting on appearance. I don't think B52's picture of a version 1 prototype is up for proper scrutiny.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Andy View Post
        I thought from the subject line that this thread was a naming competition for the machine.

        My submission...

        THE FUGLY LEVER

        ...unless the machine is going to be flush mounted into a wall cavity in which case I would go for

        SLIGHTLY LESS FUGLY
        I thought the topic was GUESS the name of the machine.

        If we start to discuss looks (and dimensions) then:
        Londinium 1: 550mm(d) x 320(w) x 320 (h)
        Bezzera Strega: 455mmD x360mmW x 450mmH
        Quick Mill Achille: 500mmD x 355mmW x 770mmH

        A picture of all three. No comment on looks, just a visual comparison.
        Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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        • #19
          You seem to have overlooked the Cremina at 200mm x 270 mm (long) x 330 mm high.

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          • #20
            Name that machine ?..

            I'm thinking... I'd call it "Fred"

            Yes, on good days it would be "My mate Fred"

            And on bad days, well it would be, "Fuk You Fred"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by blend52 View Post
              You seem to have overlooked the Cremina at 200mm x 270 mm (long) x 330 mm high.

              No I did not. It is in a different league.
              I posted comparisons of three similar looking lever machines, with a similar size group head and 58mm baskets. A comment was made as to the looks of the new kid on the block. I have posted pictures of two similar machines for side by side comparison.
              To me they are all stainless steel rectangular boxes with a lever group mounted to the front of them. Different sizes, but all look similar to me.

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              • #22
                Name that machine ?..

                Originally posted by Bosco_Lever View Post
                ?...
                ... have posted pictures of two similar machines for side by side comparison.
                To me they are all stainless steel rectangular boxes with a lever group mounted to the front of them. Different sizes, but all look similar to me.
                Albeit that one of them is a test-bed prototype and the other two are production models...

                Perhaps if you wrapped the other two in pallet cling wrap, it might be a fairer comparison... :stir

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bosco_Lever View Post
                  No I did not. It is in a different league.
                  I posted comparisons of three similar looking lever machines, with a similar size group head and 58mm baskets. A comment was made as to the looks of the new kid on the block. I have posted pictures of two similar machines for side by side comparison.
                  To me they are all stainless steel rectangular boxes with a lever group mounted to the front of them. Different sizes, but all look similar to me.
                  Ahh ! .. I got the impression you were comparing dimensions.......but the Cremina is certainly in a different league from that point of view also !

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                  • #24
                    Aren't they talking up £1500? If so, that probably places this machine in pointy end rather than extreme?

                    I gather that there will be another high quality spring lever competitor coming to market in about 12 months as well.

                    The proportions are a tad "out" for me at present in that the depth of the drip tray does not work for me. I guess it may be to stop it tipping forward.

                    Nevertheless, gotta love a lever for simplicity and the size of the bullseye.
                    Last edited by TC; 15 September 2012, 10:22 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
                      Aren't they talking up £1500? If so, that probably places this machine in pointy end rather than extreme?

                      I gather that there will be another high quality spring lever competitor coming to market in about 12 months as well.

                      The proportions are a tad "out" for me at present in that the depth of the drip tray does not work for me. I guess it may be to stop it tipping forward.

                      Nevertheless, gotta love a lever for simplicity and the size of the bullseye.
                      Any clues Chris? Something from Izzo?

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                      • #26
                        ..Aren't they talking up £1500? If so, that probably places this machine in pointy end rather than extreme?
                        It will be a close call, add Freight, duty, GST, and exch rate......never mind any "upgrades" or options.


                        how about this one ?
                        .....already available here, but never mentioned ?

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                        • #27
                          What's that one? Your picture is too grainy...

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                          • #28
                            Looks like a Fracino 'retro' 1 group.I couldn't find it on the Fracino site, some places list it, but not in stock.I'd assume its special order only. 7 litre boiler, couldn't find out if it was tank or plumb only

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SniffCoffee View Post
                              Any clues Chris? Something from Izzo?
                              No sniff. Not GI.

                              I regret there is nothing which I am able to share at present as I am sworn to secrecy. What I can assure is that it will be worth the wait and will take things to the next level.

                              I'm hoping that my next personal machine will be the first to hit our shores and it will be time to move on from my GS/3.

                              Chris

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                              • #30
                                Almost finished...Still waiting for water/steam taps..

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