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  • Chinese Communist Plot?

    News flash, ACA (A Current Affair) has uncovered a conspiracy to buy up Australian baby formula and ship it offshore to China.
    Now, I'm no business genius but, isn't that a good thing? Whereas ACA sees negativity, I see a golden business opportunity for our downtrodden farmers. Or am I missing something?

  • #2
    This isn't a new issue. If you have a young baby and your wife or you can't source baby formula (as has been occurring for the last year or so) you might realise that it can be a problem. There is an amount exported that does not satisfy some markets and they will endeavour to use someone else's domestic market. The big retail chains have tried to use "shopper quotas" but that is difficult on person on the checkout. They should not be "police". The Govt is still in a quandary as to how to address this problem.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by OCD View Post
      Or am I missing something?
      Yep - You are mate...

      Mal.

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      • #4
        Been happening for years. ACA is late. The problem is lack of local supply.

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        • #5
          Whilst generally aware of this issue, I have no real insight to it.
          It would be good if someone could put it into context.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by speleomike View Post
            This isn't a new issue. If you have a young baby and your wife or you can't source baby formula (as has been occurring for the last year or so) you might realise that it can be a problem. There is an amount exported that does not satisfy some markets and they will endeavour to use someone else's domestic market. The big retail chains have tried to use "shopper quotas" but that is difficult on person on the checkout. They should not be "police". The Govt is still in a quandary as to how to address this problem.
            I share your concern about domestic supply, but surely legislation would be preferable to demonizing the Chinese for wanting our goods. After all, they are willing to pay top dollar for them.

            Ps never hear about the Chinese doing home invasions or car jackings. I'm for giving them a break.

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            • #7
              The problem is not the lack of a local supply, it's the lack of a trustworty local supply.

              The whole thing started years ago when testing showed the local products as having contaminates/materials other than as listed in them. The Chinese quickly turned to foreign products and just as quickly the government acted to limit said foreign products. Welcome to the black market world of baby formula, where individuals are the biggest smugglers, and the impact is being felt globally.


              Java "Quality pays!" phile
              Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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              • #8
                It must be lucrative. An (alleged) organised crime ring was recently uncovered.

                https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-...-ring/10730984

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Javaphile View Post
                  ... local supply ...
                  Apologies for my ambiguity. You are talking about Chinese local supply. I meant Australian local supply affecting our ability to export more, hence the black market taking store supply from Australians who want it.

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                  • #10
                    I have strong views on this subject which if expressed here would most certainly not be considered (in this day and age) to be politically correct, so will let our parliament express them for me.
                    Suffice to say I consider the baby food racket is part and parcel of the subject matter discussed in the linked document.

                    Chinese Organised Crime in Australia


                    https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary...aoc/report/c04

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                    • #11
                      This has been going on for maybe 10yrs. Why haven't we built a factory to make more baby powder?

                      We building factories to make lithium batteries, and mining more lithium. Investing in a tech that probably is at its peak now and probably going into decline with other emerging battery tech.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by beensean View Post
                        Been happening for years. ACA is late. The problem is lack of local supply.
                        Lack of local supply? Surely without some sort of legislation banning or at least limiting formula being shipped off overseas to be sold, that increasing local supply only feeds this roaring trade.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OCD View Post

                          Ps never hear about the Chinese doing home invasions or car jackings. I'm for giving them a break.
                          I dont see what this has to do with what you originally asked....

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                          • #14
                            More than 20 years ago, Francis Fukuyama discussed much of how this occurs in an excellent book: Trust.

                            At the risk of mentioning something that is on topic, it also explains why virtually all the coffee machines made in Italy are made in the North.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by coffeechris View Post
                              Lack of local supply? Surely without some sort of legislation banning or at least limiting formula being shipped off overseas to be sold, that increasing local supply only feeds this roaring trade.
                              I think feeding trade was on OCD's mind in the opening post.

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