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  • #46
    Originally posted by beensean View Post
    No condition was first stated, neither on recounts nor the House. There are three in Australia (occurring also in other countries), one Senate and two House (one State). After re-counts and disputes there were three repeats or by-elections. There are also another four with margins from 5-9 votes. Any number that low will lead to recounts and likely disputes so it is fairly pointless to say it was not "decided" by a particular vote among the thousands.

    If one elector chooses irrelevance, why would there be no others? In which case a vote becomes more powerful. Through avoidance, incompetence, or deliberation, about 10% do not effectively vote anyway.


    and putting one piece of paper in a bin guarantees you will not clean up Australia all by yourself; the same for any individual action not critical alone, but necessary for completeness.

    There is no emotive argument to make. I merely noted that not voting guarantees voting irrelevance. If you are a keen campaigner, terrific (maybe ). The question was voting, not lobbying.
    Originally posted by warthog View Post
    At the risk of opening up more controversy. I'm not enrolled.
    There has been no seat of government at any level in Aus that has been decided by 1 vote.
    Therefore it is inconsequential.
    The data says so.
    Again, show me the election results decided by one vote.

    I stand by that. I have not seen data to counter it.

    I don't mind if others vote. I resent be compelled to and wont accede to that demand myself.
    It has no bearing on what others do.

    There are more decisive actions to take, or at least a better chance than none, but it takes more effort.

    No emotive arguments here, I am going off the objective data.

    Anyway I've had the discussion before and my wife steadfastly holds the counter position.

    If you don't want to vote the simple process is not to enroll to start with, or don't re-enroll when you move to another electorate.
    Last edited by warthog; 5 May 2019, 10:21 AM. Reason: include original assertion

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    • #47
      Originally posted by warthog View Post
      ...I don't mind if others vote. I resent be compelled to and wont accede to that demand myself...
      As much as I admire independent thinkers, your stance does explain why the 'powers that were' thought it necessary to bring in compulsory voting in the first place.

      Ps if you vote, you can at least bitch about the results with a clear conscience.

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