I survived the AstraZenica vaccine.

[Mono]

Me.... 9 or it might be 10 weeks still to go, 11/10 from memory......FFS I could be old(er) by then😎

[greenman]

having my second AZ on the 7th!!

[saeco_user]

Had my second shot of Astra today as well. Ready for the mosh pit!

[tompoland]

100%. Other than it goes to six monthly. We still don't know how long it will provide protection.

[lancruiser]

Annual booster? Bring it on.

If you check the Medicare App on your phone, you will get a "COVID-19 digital certificate"...their words, not mine.

[Andy]

Second shot today from the Russian Roulette chamber, I feel fine and have filled the card.

What's the bet it's an annual booster after this?

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Yeh, part of the trick is that ATAGI are not asked to provide epidemiological advice (and in particular aren't asked to consider the impact of one person getting vaccinated on the risk to others). They line up the expected probability of an individual being exposed to COVID and the expected outcome of that (with / without vaccination) against risk to that individual arising from the vaccination. Now of course, these risks are not independent of the behaviour of other individuals.....so it gets a little tricky.

And yep, if we had sufficient supply of Pfizer, the current advice would be redundant.

[nogps]

im getting my second only because i really want to drink my espressos at a cafe in a ceramic cup ... i know totally selfish

[Yelta]

I saw some data out of the UK last night on the ABC news i think. ( where vaccination rates are high and AZ is the predominant vaccine). Since they have lifted restrictions/lock down, the infection rate has climbed significantly ( but to my eyes not exponentially) BUT the hospitalisation rate and death rates are about 20 times lower than in the first wave when no one was vaccinated.

It seems to me the ATAGI ( Australian Medical body that gives clinical advice on which vaccine for whom) seems to calculate fluctuating risk assessment results. Initially AZ for over 50s, then over 60s, and now trending downwards as the Risk benefit ratio changes, still frustrating for those wishing to make informed choices regarding getting AZ. The changing risk profile is understandable ( even if we don't agree with where the number falls ) but inconsistencies in the roll out CANs and CAN'Ts don't help.

From Reuters July 22nd,
United Kingdom

UK reports 39,906 new COVID cases and 84 deaths on Thursday
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-...ay-2021-07-22/


Pretty grim stuff if you ask me.

[amberale]

I don’t think ATAGI decide on Cans and Can’ts but on Shoulds and Shouldn’t.
The fact that their advice changes as international data changes shows that they are performing their function as they should.
I think the biggest problem is still a shortage of vaccine.

[FNQ]

I saw some data out of the UK last night on the ABC news i think. ( where vaccination rates are high and AZ is the predominant vaccine). Since they have lifted restrictions/lock down, the infection rate has climbed significantly ( but to my eyes not exponentially) BUT the hospitalisation rate and death rates are about 20 times lower than in the first wave when no one was vaccinated.

It seems to me the ATAGI ( Australian Medical body that gives clinical advice on which vaccine for whom) seems to calculate fluctuating risk assessment results. Initially AZ for over 50s, then over 60s, and now trending downwards as the Risk benefit ratio changes, still frustrating for those wishing to make informed choices regarding getting AZ. The changing risk profile is understandable ( even if we don't agree with where the number falls ) but inconsistencies in the roll out CANs and CAN'Ts don't help.

[teem]

I found this useful for understanding risks vs. benefits for AstraZeneca:
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/...ne-astrazeneca

Younger people in states with low rates of disease might choose to wait for Pfizer (assuming it will arrive eventually...), while in NSW the ATAGI are just today advising all people to "strongly consider" AstraZeneca. Frustrating Steve82 that you've found access so difficult, all the best getting vaccinated soon.

[Steve82]

Unfortunately there are growing reports of 18 - 39 getting knocked backed for AZ. If anyone in govt had a spine they would REALLY open AZ mass vaccination to anyone that wants it, with some kind of electronic indemnity waver connected to govt app on phone.

Im 39 and was told to wait for Pfizer im currently trying to get AZ locally through a GP as are several younger family members. Access should not be this hard. The following is from a reputable science based medicine site.


" Based on the UK percentages, if all Australians contracted COVID-19, 7.7 million of them would get COVID-related blood clots, and 750,000 would likely die from the disease (based on global averages). On the other hand, if every Australian only got the AZ vaccine, 200 would develop blood clots – less than the number of people who’ve already died in Australia from COVID-19 (909 people from 29,000 cases).

[Dr_Dave]

No they don't at present (sadly)

[amberale]

Thanks Andy.
I figured that I would hear about your experience before we got booked.
We are not worried just ready to do the right thing whatever that is deemed to be at the moment.
There was some encouragement to get the second shot early a few weeks ago but I think the latest outbreaks have changed that.
We’ll stay safe on the farm with the gate locked and the dogs hungry.
Thank goodness for BeanBay,