Opinions from real people/common folk about the Djokovic scandal

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You have mentioned anumber of times about when Djokovic got his result. It was mentioned in court he had the result at 20.00 on the 16th. It means he totally disregarded the rights of others to choose if they want to risk Covid. He clearly is so arrogant he has no regard for others health or well being - or if they are immuno compromised. I still think this makes him a person of 'bad character'.

[Macca2210]

My opinion:
Djokovic is a very talented player, but an entitled rich narcissist with no regard to any other humans. He leveraged suffering refugees for his own advantage.
The Morrison govt couldn’t find their collective arse with their finger - played like a fiddle
Djokovic’s only option if not vac’d was to contract Covid prior to the AO - he registered for the event in early Dec,then tested +ve and then traveled out here - do I believe there is fraud going on here - absolutely.
The treatment of illegal immigrants by Aus Gov is atrocious - youth in denton for 10 years - makes me ashamed to be an Australian.

My hopes:
if Djokovic was a decent human he would use some of his massive wealth and homeland influence to help relocate the refugees being held in detention back to his country. Nothing in it for him, so he won’t.
Raffa to beat Djokovic in 3 set final.
Documents leaked from Serbia implicate government ministers in fraudulent Covid results issued to Djokovic so he could get through Aus immigration!!! He is subsequently banned from entering Aus for 3 years

[chokkidog]

You're not at all interested in our opinions or thoughts. You just want to harass and sling your BS at us. You should leave this forum. Your reply to my post above is just further evidence of your head being up your ah. You have no idea about truth or reality, I said he doesn't have an automatic right, then after your little bit of drivel you agreed with me! And you have the temerity to say that people like "you and me" , cobber, you have no idea who I am, but one thing is for sure, I am nothing like you. And as far as your claim about refugees not being able to afford lawyers... I would think there would would be a queue of pro bono offers from lawyers around the country happy to represent these poor unfortunate people. There was nothing clear about Djokovic's entry circumstances prior to the commencement of legal proceedings, further underlining my point about refugees needing the opportunity to have their day in court, as well as highlighting your true motives here. You are disingenuous, mischeivious and full of self aggrandisement, to say the least.

* footnote. You're concerned about the human rights of a multi millionaire élite trying to make money in a foreign country? I just googled human rights abuses in Serbia. Maybe you should jump on a forum in your own country and try to be a positive influence there.

[saeco_user]

As you sought opinions, here are mine:
1) Djokovic sought a loophole through which he could enter Australia without being vaccinated.
2) The Federal Liberal government decided to make a political statement, that it "protects our borders" and "the same rules apply to everyone" while successfully undermining the State Labor government.
3) There are no winners. Djokovic will have a very hard time with crowds and public relations if he does now play, or will be sent home anyway. The Australian Open has become a sideshow. The Government, and by extension Australia, are gaining an international reputation as bumbling, unreliable and a little backwards.

[Budgiesmuggler]

Wow for a journalist you really don't like to read the source materials.

Novak got off on the process. The border guards said he could have until 830am, but they cancelled his visa at 7am. The Government agreed with Novak's team that the proper process was not followed, and the Court then rescinded the order. However the Government can again cancel his visa following the proper process.

There is a reason why the lawyers challenged the process and not the actual visa cancellation - because they know the government has the power to cancel the visa.

In any event, glad this got sorted by the Courts and it shows how a well functioning system works. I can imagine the result would be very different in Romania.

[LeroyC]

Give it up mate... Your credibility around here has sunk to the depths of the Mariana Trench. Not interested in any more of your "opinions". Mal.

I disagree Mal!! This is hilarious.

[AdrianN]

This makes for a VERY interesting read to say the least https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...n-border-force

Not sure how someone could still defend the Federal Govt position after the release of this transcript.

[AdrianN]

Barry, I understand what you mean, but consider this from my point of view: I was genuinely interested to know what real people from Australia actually believe on this matter. I happened to be a member in an online community based in Australia and therefore full of real people from Australia. So I asked.
If you just stay in the ivory tower and spill out texts based on what you see trough the telescope you're bound to get out of touch with the reality rather sooner then later...

[AdrianN]

* Despite the above Djokovic, has no automatic right to enter our country, same as anyone else.

There's a catch here. When two states establish diplomatic relations it is expected that each side will treat the citizens of the other in good faith. This means to refrain from abusive behavior. Now, after reading what the judge in Djokovic's case said, it looks pretty clear that denying entry and subsequently cancelling his visa were abuses. Most likely if he was the citizen of a country that mattered on the international scene this would not have happened. I cannot see this happening to Serena if the circumstances were identical.

To put things in perspective, this is why between countries that have friendly relations you're not going to be denied entry if you have a salami in your luggage, even if the country has sanitary rules that forbid you from bringing in such food. You will have it confiscated, you will get a fine if you failed to declare it, but you won't be denied entry.
This doesn't mean there's an automatic right to enter and pretty much all states accept a list of motives considered to be "common sense" and ranging from deteriorated passport (back in the day when it was all paper this was not uncommon) all the way up to aggressive/violent behavior at border control etc.

* The judge should let him in and open the floodgates for all of Morrison's real political prisoners to lawyer up and get out of detention.

They don't have the money to lawyer up. And some of them probably have entered the country in far less clear (from a legal standpoint) circumstances.

The really sad part about the Djokovic story is that a regular person (not millionaire, not celebrity) traveling for legit purposes (say a tourist, someone like you, me etc) would have had exactly zero chances to even make it in court...

[AdrianN]

Link mate, link. All the media says the date when he received the result is unknown. If you know better provide the source.

[otree]

Djokovic won Round 1.

Now let's see if there will be Round 2.
🤔🤔🤔

[topshot]

He's the world number 1 tennis player, big deal.
He will probably still be able to play anyway, to make Australia not look "so bad" in the world media.

[chokkidog]

This will make me fat on popcorn and I may need coffee to maintain any interest.
My dot points:
* Visa required is :The Temporary Work (Short Stay Activity) visa (Subclass 400)
* It's not about sovereignty or borders, it's about politics, distraction and elections. Sovereignty and borders is too often a rubbery football of convenience and discrimination.
* Despite the above Djokovic, has no automatic right to enter our country, same as anyone else.
* Djokovic needs to grow up and learn some respect, humility and perspective.
* Djokovic and other pro sport people have had more than six months to get their act together, sane ones have, the other ones haven't. Consequences.
* Will this be on the Border Security tv show or will it (the show) remain xenophobic, anti Asian and blatantly racist? ( it's on Cannel 7, right?)
* The judge should let him in and open the floodgates for all of Morrison's real political prisoners to lawyer up and get out of detention.
* My preferred outcome: Send Djokovic home ( to grow up) and let the refugees out, to live and work in Australia.
* You don't get privilege without responsibility.
* Djokovic doesn't love Australia, he loves our money.

[Budgiesmuggler]

No, I didnt. His submission to the Court states that he received his test result on 16 Dec.

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Adrian, I recognise that you've been a member here for some time (good stuff). It's just that when one starts a new thread cavassing opinions on a topic that may at least indirectly influence your future public output, it would be nice to know that.