Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
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Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
I like the sound of the oscar/grinta combo. Which sponsor has this combo?
Many thanks sniff
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Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
For your $1600 you could get that package from Talk Coffee with the GEE and a Compak grinder plus extras.
Or you could go for a NS Oscar + Grinta combo.
The GEE will steam straight after pulling a shot. The Oscar should steam during the shot. The difference is minimal. Youll probably pull the shot first anyway while youre getting the hang of things.
You could try e-mailing the sponsors with the e-mail address on the left and see what they suggest.
Cheers
Sniff
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Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
OK. So if I buy in Australia what do I buy for $1200 on the machine and say a couple of hundred for a grinder. 1600-1800 for the pair. Should I go to the next forum and you you can steer me in the right direction from there? By the way thanks for all the input. Very helpful and things i really had not thought about.
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Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
To import or buy locally? depends pretty much on the product, some things Im willing to gamble on but an espresso machine is certainly not one of them.
Chris mentioned a few of the costs involved, you can add insurance to that as well, I can see a A$1000 machine costing close to $2000 landed and thats assuming it arrives undamaged, sea freight is notoriously tough on small shipments.
Buy in Aust from a sponsor and enjoy the experience of good service, backup and security.
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Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
Some other things to keep in mind miki:Originally posted by 2C28222A292E3124410 link=1280983733/12#12 date=1281173035So I have decided to spend big and get something decent and sea freight it back. So now I will do some research on machines in the $1000+ bracket.
-You probably lose 5% on exchange
-Cost of freight
-Import duty and GST
-Other misc. taxes and charges- espcially on unaccompanied freight that requires the services of a freight forwarder
-Still no warranty and possibly no parts...
Its a risky business
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MMMMM. food for thought
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That would be right. You lose warranty rights and in many cases, you may not have parts support either.Originally posted by 342A323F292A31305E0 link=1280983733/13#13 date=1281173199I would be VERY surprised if any manufacturer/importer would offer any sort of warranty repairs on one of their machines purchased overseas.
In addition, machines for other markets may not comply here.
I have had my head in a 2000 build Rocket e-61 this week and I was shocked by some of what I saw- including a hole where the thermal switch should have been
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Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
FWIW, you may want to think about buying direct in Australia, from a sponsor.
I would be VERY surprised if any manufacturer/importer would offer any sort of warranty repairs on one of their machines purchased overseas.
You may save something early on, but be paying through the nose later...
Sniff
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Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
Yep, I was looking at the Gee. But I think my problems have been solved. I have a friend going to Italy in 2 weeks time for a year. He will send me back whatever and how ever many I want of anything I want. So I have decided to spend big and get something decent and sea freight it back. So now I will do some research on machines in the $1000+ bracket. If am going to get one, Imay as well get one that will last me the rest of my life, how ever long or short that turns out to be. Thanks for all your help here and I will let you know what I have decided to get and what its going to cost me. Many Thanks.
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Re: Why not use two cheap machines to froth and pull the shot?
The Elektra is way out of this price bracket, an old renovaters delight maybe would slot in, I was using it as an example for what I consider to be a suitable steamer.
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By the way, how much is an Elektra worth.???
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Ok. Help me out here. Which one???? Looks like I go to next forum (500-1500). Maybe I should just by the Silvia and be done with it.Originally posted by 4F434A47474E220 link=1280983733/6#6 date=1281077890just buy a HX machine now...... problem solved......
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SBDU, single boiler dual use, 300 mil capacity less allowing for headspace, no autofill or water level indicator, the slightest drip and it will soon run dry, though the same would also apply running it at brew temps which I used to do without incident. Small boiler means it has limited steaming capacity say enough for 4 cappas before requiring repriming. The small home levers I mentioned have larger capacity and a water level indicator, though no autofill, l believe they would be more suitable if someone wanted to go that way.I would have thought it would depend on how you look at it. I suspect that a silvia could be left on "steam" all day long as the boiler element would still cycle on and off and holding the boiler at steam temp instead of brew temp shouldnt take a lot more energy/stress.
The problem(and perhaps this is what you allude to) would be steaming constantly with it because the element would be constantly on and not cycling.
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