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another thread resurrection, as this seems to be the only source of information for this machine. The Basket handle is actually 53mm. I have one of these machines and the coffees (mocha's actually...) i make come out as good or better than the best i've had at cafes. Love it, except for a problem which seems to be the pump... found a universal one which i'm just about to order and hopefully should be back up and running
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So I might hold onto the Cremosa and check out garage sales for a likely replacement handle. And, in the meantime, trawling through various sites looking for a machine that fits my budget (not too much) and gets generally positive reviews!Originally posted by shortblackman View PostTrue. Could be a fair effort to track it down, just seems a shame when you've got something that would be great except for one part!
I have just found a group seal of all things to replace one on an old Krups machine of mine. Couldn't use it for a couple of years & a lot of searching. Then.... I find a Pavoni one fits, and she's "good as new"! Shameful Irony: I have a Pavoni on my bench. Never occurred to me that it would hold the answer to my quest!
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True. Could be a fair effort to track it down, just seems a shame when you've got something that would be great except for one part!
I have just found a group seal of all things to replace one on an old Krups machine of mine. Couldn't use it for a couple of years & a lot of searching. Then.... I find a Pavoni one fits, and she's "good as new"! Shameful Irony: I have a Pavoni on my bench. Never occurred to me that it would hold the answer to my quest!
anyway, the lack of one rubber ring was, for a time anyway, preventing this little machine from doing anything useful.
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Thanks for that shortblackman. I will continue my quest. But maybe a brand new machine might be on the cards. Buying a new handle could be an expensive mistake if the Cremosa doesn't work, and I could put that money to a newbie.
cheers
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If you can get hold of the above mentioned saeco via Venizia to try ('cause they're relatively common) See if it fits, then that shouldn't be too hard to come by if it does.
Ive got one. You need a 51mm basket/ handle.
just a guess from what I've read above...
and welcome to coffee snobs!
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Hi
Resurrecting an old thread but I've just inherited a G3 Ferrari Cremosa Junior. My problem is that it doesn't have a filter handle nor basket.
I've tried a couple of coffee machine equipment places but no luck. Is there anyone here who could point me in the right direction?
cheers
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Ok, an update.
On the steamer switch, Yesterday I took it apart and couldnt find anything wrong with it but my guess is that it was replaced by the previous owner and it originally was a standard "on-off" switch, so I went to Jaycar and got this:
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView...Max=&SUBCATID=
I replaced it when I got back home and now I can turn it on and hear the steam building up and froth the milk for as long as I need (Ill need to practice a bit more to get the proper texture). Then I started brewing the coffee and.. boom! The house main switch went off and everything shut down. I must have wired the new switch wrong as its got 6 connectors where the old one only two, so I changed the connectors using a multimeter and so far so good... but well see how it goes tonight.
So that fixes my steam issue. As for the coffee, I gave up and bought myself the Sunbeam EM0480 on Sunday along with some "semi-fresh" beans (Vittoria, roasted on 16th May) from the supermarket as all the roasters were closed and I didnt want to spend much on beans that I was going to use just to "dial" the grinder.
I set the grinder at 14 and lo and behold I got a single shot of 20 sec with lots of crema!
After that I went one step finer (13) and went for a double shot but it stayed in the 20 sec mark again, so I think I probably need to be more consistent with my tampering and dosing but Ill get there.
BTW, I took the head gasket to DiBartoli yesterday and the guy told me its the same one as the Saeco Via Venezia, so now I know the machines origins. He didnt have a spare but he reckoned that it was still good so I ended up just buying a new tamper and Ill go back this week to buy some freshly roasted beans.
I cant wait to get home tonight and try to improve my frothing skills and get the right grind/tamper! (considering the replaced switch wont give me any problems).
Again, thanks every one for your help in getting me even more hooked into this wonderful world of coffee ;D
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not4us
In the Silvia, the heating indication light is paralled across the element+cutout thermostat, so whenever the heater is on [for steaming or brewing] the light is on.
We dont know if your circuit is wired in the same way, but this seems a fairly standard implementation
In Silvia, the heating [light on] cycle for steaming can take from 60 to 90 sec , but often I can steam [for 1 latte] prior to this.
You should hold it long enough for the heat cycle to stop [ie light off] just to determine what is happening.
I was thinking, if your steam switch was damaged [and momentary as a result] you may also be able to get away with swapping it with the brew switch.
It would be much more convenient to hold it in for 25
seconds rather than 90.
The sunbeam is a good entry grinder [I began with one too] but with questionable longevity, but it should go for long enough to get your SO hooked on great coffee.
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Made some progress last night (at least in the steaming department).
Didnt have time to take the button apart but I kept it pressed for longer (to build up steam) and got a lot more steam this time (even though the heating light never came off after I pressed the button for over a minute).
When I felt the steam was weakening I pushed the button while I was still steaming and that seem to did the trick as I finally got some proper creamy milk (still lots of room for improvement though).
Onto the coffee itself, I knew about the importance of freshly grind coffee but I wasnt sure if a bad group seal could be at blame too, going by what you guys tell me ti looks like its definitely the stale coffee Im using.
Tomorrow is finally payday so Ill have my new grinder this weekend!
Im finding it hard to justify to my significant other spending close to $200 on a grinder even though shes a coffee lover too, so I cant see how I could get away with getting something better aka Iberital or Rocky as the price almost doubles.
I guess Ill have to get the Sunbeam and later on, when she discovers the importance of a good grinder, move to something better. I know this is a "waste of money" but sometimes you have to loose battles to win the war
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I am also fairly new at this however a question I asked may answer the crema question. From my understanding now you will struggle to get crema or a long pour from supermarket coffee. Does not matter how much you tamp or anything else. This is why they have pressurised baskets to produce crema regardless of the age of the coffee.
This is the thread I am referring to.
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1180244797
I now have a grinder but am waiting for my non pressurised basket to arrive before I know if I am able to create true crema
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Dont worry about powering off and unplugging, Im an IT specialist and know about those thing (although is always good to be reminded).
I always bleed the nozzle before steaming so thats not an issue.
So by what you say, a bad seal in the group shouldnt really affect the coffee as much as the right grind and tampering does?
I know the way pressurized PFs cheat from my Breville Cafe Roma and I must say the effect is great (not so the taste).
I cant wait now to get my grinder and start experimenting!
Thanks foor the advice, Ill keep you updated...
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Remember power off & plug out, when you look at the switch.
From experience, if the switch it has broken, you will struggle to fix it, but finding and fitting suitable replacement shouldnt be too hard.
Just before you try out the steam function, bleed a little water out from the steam wand, this will give "room" in the boiler for the steam to build up.
Put simply, Crema, is produced by the extraction of oils when coffee is exposed to a certain pressure.
In non pressurised porta-filters a combination of the right grind and the right tamp beans will provide this pressure.
If the beans are ground too course [as supermarket beans are] you will probably get a fast pout and very little crema.
As a rule of thumb, a good pour should take 25 sec for 30ml [single] or 60ml [double].
Pressurised portafilters "cheat" they have a tiny hole that creates the pressure. This eliminates "user" variables such as grind or tamp, in fact as others have said, pressurised portafilters will produce crema from tan-bark.
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Thanks for the tips reubster.
Ill take the button apart when I get home and see if I can find anything wrong in it. Its only got 2 positions: off and on(as long as you keep it pressed).
Theres no visible indication but you can hear it building up the steam but now that you mention it is only steam that you hear and not the pump so my description was wrong. When Im pressing the steam button the boiler fills up with steam (not water).
Ill try and keep the button pressed for longer than a minute and see how that goes.
Regarding the steam coming from the group, it only happens after Ive kept the steam button pressed for over 30 seconds, but as you suggested I may take the seal to DeBartoli and see if they can get me a new one (I hope being a "Silvia" copy it uses standard parts). If this is the case, could that be why I dont get "crema" on the espresso (apart form the supermarket coffee of course)
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The machine looks a lot like a silvia copy.
It doesnt seem right or make sense that the steam switch would be momentary in a single boiler machine.
To heat from brew to steam should take about 1 min [Its just too long to wait]
It is possible the switch itself has broken [ie a spring or latch has broken] ?
Also, some switches have two movements [up or down from centre], one way will latch and one will be momentary.
Is there any visible indication that the boiler is being heated, when the steam switch is pressed?
Id hold it the steam switch down for a minute or longer just to see if the you can get more steam.
What makes you think that this switch is filling the boiler, can you hear the pump when its depressed.
A liitle steam leaking via the group, is possibly OK, though it may suggest you need to replace the group seal.
Supermarket coffee is not ground fine enough for "true" espresso machines with non-pressurised portafilters, it will gush.
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