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  • #16
    Re: Sunbeam EM4800 problem (I think)

    Yeah, they prob realised and changed the manual. (My machine is about 3.5 years old... is yours older?)

    Ring them and see if theyll replace it with an EM6910.

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    • #17
      Re: Sunbeam EM4800 problem (I think)

      What!!?? Mine is only 18 months old!! Man - this is getting weird!! So they originally say Important - Dont use vinegar, and then later manuals decide its OK??

      Definitely gunna try for an EM6910 now!!

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      • #18
        Re: Sunbeam EM4800 problem (I think)

        Originally posted by SpeedBump link=1212802805/0#16 date=1214132107
        What!!?? Mine is only 18 months old!! Man - this is getting weird!! So they originally say Important - Dont use vinegar, and then later manuals decide its OK??

        Maybe they think they will sell more machines that way :

        I wouldnt use vinegar in any coffee machine.... as you dont know what else is in it (or even what strength it is!).... and in a thermoblock you have very fine tubes..... doesnt take much to block em Im afraid.

        The correct chemicals are best, but tartaric and citric acid should both be fine (when used at the correct concentrations)

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        • #19
          Re: Sunbeam EM4800 problem (I think)

          We had a similar problem on the final leg of the descaling with our works fully automatic Delonghi Magnifica, it slowed to a trickle then stopped. the thing then sat on a shelf for a year and was going to be sold on ebay as a not working unit .. at this point I thought what the hell and ripped it to bits to have a good look.

          Turned out to have a bit of crud (loosened scale) in the 3 way solenoid after the primary boiler. Cleaned this with a pin and put the machine back together, it worked fine for about 5 minutes, then the same happened, same valve was blocked .. so out with the primary boiler which is a mongrel and after dismantling it was FULL of scale .. spent 20 minutes with a pot scourer and tartaric acid .. reassemble and the machine is back working, better than ever for the last few months.

          Instead of writing off the sunbeam .. get a screwdriver or 2, what have you got to lose ... I would suggest pulling it to bits on an outdoors table though, you do tend to get water squirting everywhere..

          I might post some pics if anyone is interested. I took a few snaps to show the guys at work.

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          • #20
            Re: Sunbeam EM4800 problem (I think)

            Originally posted by Stoney link=1212802805/0#18 date=1222736984
            We had a similar problem on the final leg of the descaling with our works fully automatic Delonghi Magnifica, it slowed to a trickle then stopped. the thing then sat on a shelf for a year and was going to be sold on ebay as a not working unit .. at this point I thought what the hell and ripped it to bits to have a good look.

            Turned out to have a bit of crud (loosened scale) in the 3 way solenoid after the primary boiler. Cleaned this with a pin and put the machine back together, it worked fine for about 5 minutes, then the same happened, same valve was blocked .. so out with the primary boiler which is a mongrel and after dismantling it was FULL of scale .. spent 20 minutes with a pot scourer and tartaric acid .. reassemble and the machine is back working, better than ever for the last few months.

            Instead of writing off the sunbeam .. get a screwdriver or 2, what have you got to lose ... I  would suggest pulling it to bits on an outdoors table though, you do tend to get water squirting everywhere..

            I might post some pics if anyone is interested. I took a few snaps to show the guys at work.
            My old Em4800 had the same sort of problems and Pulled the whole system apart and split the Thermo block etc just to look... It was 18months old... So what did it matter... I found scale in the switching valve at the front... and after a clean and rebulid, it worked for another 18 months before I went to an EM3600 (yep sort of went backwards) as it was cheep and offered some improvements over the EM4800. Needless to say the bug had bit and now a Em6910... Just waiting for the next model up to be released... No Autos for me.

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            • #21
              Re: Sunbeam EM4800 problem (I think)

              For Jim Tigernuts & Speedbump & others seeking an unpressurised basket, I found that the Breville Bar Italias basket fit the 4800s portafilter very snugly. I bought another portafilter and removed the plastic bits to use it with. Oh, it only cost me about $12 in Perth.

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