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  • First Setup $5-$600.

    Hi Everyone,

    So i've recently worked out i spend nearly $1500 a year on purchased cafe coffee so i'm looking to purchase some home equipment to save on these costs and also learn myself.

    I'm looking to spend around $5-$600. I've read that spending around this amount you should be splitting the cost of grinder and machine 50/50 as the grinder is just as, if not more important than the machine. This has scared me away from fully automatic machines with in-built grinders.

    what are your thought's on which way i should go? Are fully automatic machines around this price range worth it or should i go the route of buying the grinder separate to the machine?

    Thanks for your feedback!

  • #2
    If you know you spend $1500 on cafe coffee why not up your spend to $1500 for a better equipment? $600 split 50/50 means $300 each will not get a lot for your money unless you are looking at used equipment and even then not unless you find some cracking good deals or go the used Lelit combi way which is a grinder and espresso machine in one. $600 on a single item possibly will get you something a little more reasonable.

    I am guessing $1500 at $4 a coffee = 375 coffees a year? If you intend to roast your own coffee beans @ approx $15/kg and 18g per coffee = $0.26 an espresso add milk for say $2 a litre using approx 200ml a latte = ($0.40 + 0.26) x 375 = $247.50 a year you will spend on coffee (no allowance for electricity and maintenance). So even if you round it up to $300 a year you are saving $1200 a year on your cafe coffees. So personally I think that justifies spending at least $1200 on your equipment...don't you?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by saoye View Post
      If you know you spend $1500 on cafe coffee why not up your spend to $1500 for a better equipment? $600 split 50/50 means $300 each will not get a lot for your money unless you are looking at used equipment and even then not unless you find some cracking good deals or go the used Lelit combi way which is a grinder and espresso machine in one. $600 on a single item possibly will get you something a little more reasonable.

      I am guessing $1500 at $4 a coffee = 375 coffees a year? If you intend to roast your own coffee beans @ approx $15/kg and 18g per coffee = $0.26 an espresso add milk for say $2 a litre using approx 200ml a latte = ($0.40 + 0.26) x 375 = $247.50 a year you will spend on coffee (no allowance for electricity and maintenance). So even if you round it up to $300 a year you are saving $1200 a year on your cafe coffees. So personally I think that justifies spending at least $1200 on your equipment...don't you?
      +1. You're better off spending a little more, it will keep you happier in the long run as well. Prolong upgraditus...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by David8 View Post
        +1. You're better off spending a little more, it will keep you happier in the long run as well. Prolong upgraditus...
        Hehe...I just realised I used $2 a litre for milk...milk is $2 for 2 litres! = $0.20 per coffee instantly saved from my original calculations! See you're saving money already!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by saoye View Post
          Hehe...I just realised I used $2 a litre for milk...milk is $2 for 2 litres! = $0.20 per coffee instantly saved from my original calculations! See you're saving money already!
          Homebrand milk at least is $1 per litre. The fancier milk is more expensive.

          I use the cheapo milk. :P

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          • #6
            Originally posted by David8 View Post
            Homebrand milk at least is $1 per litre. The fancier milk is more expensive.

            I use the cheapo milk. :P
            And when all the Dairy Farmers have been sufficiently screwed by the private labels, the 'cheapo' milk will suddenly get more expensive. And by then, they will be your only choice.

            I use milk that costs me more than $1 per litre. At present, this does translate to a better gate price for the Farmer.

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            • #7
              You make a good point haha. I don't pay for milk as i own a convenience store and write off my take home groceries in tax . So spending around $1000-$1200 on equipment would you go for an 'all-in-one' machine? What products do you suggest?

              I guess what i'm trying to say is do machines around this money have decent in-built grinders or am i better off purchasing separate products.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by alistair View Post
                You make a good point haha. I don't pay for milk as i own a convenience store and write off my take home groceries in tax . So spending around $1000-$1200 on equipment would you go for an 'all-in-one' machine? What products do you suggest?
                I would not suggest a combo machine. It really limits your upgrade potential in the grinder. Also, if the machine or grinder part breaks down, then you are up for a new machine and new grinder. I would suggest something like a Compak K3 Push grinder, with either a Lelit or Silvia single boiler machine. By the sounds of it you drink milk coffees, so the single boiler might be an annoyance, but you do learn to live with it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by alistair View Post
                  You make a good point haha. I don't pay for milk as i own a convenience store and write off my take home groceries in tax . So spending around $1000-$1200 on equipment would you go for an 'all-in-one' machine? What products do you suggest?

                  I guess what i'm trying to say is do machines around this money have decent in-built grinders or am i better off purchasing separate products.
                  Did I hear you say that the shop was buying it? :-0. With depreciation and tax free bits you can justify an even better machine now. Soon you'll be making money from buying a machine...


                  Cheers Yabba

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by alistair View Post
                    You make a good point haha. I don't pay for milk as i own a convenience store and write off my take home groceries in tax . So spending around $1000-$1200 on equipment would you go for an 'all-in-one' machine? What products do you suggest?

                    I guess what i'm trying to say is do machines around this money have decent in-built grinders or am i better off purchasing separate products.
                    If you can afford it, go for separate equipment (not that there's really anything wrong with the lelit combi (single boiler) - I have one myself) and if at all possible I'd go a heat exchanger (HX) machine rather than a single boiler just for the flexibility and convenience of being able to steam a lot more milk and pull multiple shots when entertaining and steam and pull shots at the same time (I also have a mazzer mini A grinder and a Rocket Giotto so I can compare the diff between the combi and the HX), but that would stretch your budget closer to upper $1500...however, any way to write some of the coffee equipment off in tax? If so you might be able to bump your budget up to $2k!! I'm not helping you am I? hehe.

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                    • #11
                      Re: First Setup $5-$600.

                      Haha I wish money was no object. Unfortunately this is strictly a home purchase so I can't claim the tax. Appreciate all your inputs though, thanks. I will check out the products suggested and please list more to look at with a total budget of around the 1200 mark

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by alistair View Post
                        .... please list more to look at with a total budget of around the 1200 mark
                        Buying new ?

                        Breville Smart grinder @ <$200
                        + NS Oscar @ <$1k
                        0r Rancillio silvia @ <$500 + Rocky grinder @ < $400

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blend52 View Post
                          Buying new ?
                          0r Rancillio silvia @ <$500 + Rocky grinder @ < $400
                          This is the combo im looking at but probably leaning towards the Compak K3 Push for the grinder.

                          Any idea on the best place to purchase the Compak?

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                          • #14
                            Yeah im thinking of going the Silvia except with the Compak K3 Push. Any idea on the best place to purchase this grinder?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by alistair View Post
                              Yeah im thinking of going the Silvia except with the Compak K3 Push. Any idea on the best place to purchase this grinder?
                              Where are you located? A local site sponsor would be the best place to buy. Having a chat to them will be the best bet to get some advice and personal service.

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