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    It was going then stopped. It sounded like it was trying to work but nothing coming out the group head or steam wand.

    I almost threw it out, then today decided to give it another chance.

    Warmed up, hot water out, steam wand, group head all worked.
    Then I set it on steam, steamed away like I thought it should.

    Set it back to water setting, and it took an age to readjust, could hear what I thought might be the pump working to push water through and cool it,
    but like before nothing worked.

    I am going to let it get cold overnight and see if the same pattern appears tommorrow.

    I have a home for it if it will work properly.
    Apparently it had little use, sat in the garage before I bought it for $30.00, to get the P/F to make a Naked.

    Date stamp says made Oct 2007.

    Any suggestions.
    Not going to spend much money on it.
    Last edited by rawill; 31st August 2017, 04:54 PM. Reason: Spelling

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    Possibly a scale blockage on one of the water lines. The scale flakes probably moved along the system enabling it to work then another few flakes came through and jammed it up again.

    I usually see the tubes block at the exit of the thermoblock. It's worth opening it up and just checking all of the tubes.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by noidle22 View Post
      Possibly a scale blockage on one of the water lines. The scale flakes probably moved along the system enabling it to work then another few flakes came through and jammed it up again.

      I usually see the tubes block at the exit of the thermoblock. It's worth opening it up and just checking all of the tubes.
      Many thanks

      You may well be right.
      That would explain the stange behaviour!

      It worked as it should last night, and again
      it worked as it should this morning.

      I have flushed a strong 50/50 vinegar/water solution through it many times this morning.
      So for now all appears to work as it should.

      I wonder if I should put a genuine descaling solution through it.

      Noidle22, does the steam system utilize the same thermobloc as the hot water system.
      My reason for asking is I want to leave the solution sit in the steam system for a while to ensure it has descaled.
      I know the EM 6910 has separate systems.

      And certainly the steam is not as powerful as a 6910, so it needs to be as good as it can possiby be.

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      • #4
        Yes there's only one thermoblock in this machine.

        The machine also has more tubes and connections than the standard machines with the steam/coffee knob on the front. As the knob is on the side, there's extra tubes running to and from it, this gives more possible locations for problems.

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        • #5
          I understand,
          and as we/you said before, and I have experienced, the screen controls can go bad.

          I like the steam/coffee knob on the side because it takes that control away from the heat which the 4800 and others have, and they become hard to turn.

          From what I have seen when pulling them apart is the heat degrades the control knob mechanism, mine went a bit brown.

          Made an acceptable coffee in it this morning with a breville single walled double.

          Still dialling my grinder in for it, seems to need a different fineness setting compared to the EM 6910.

          Question, does a finer grind mean a sweeter coffee, seems to my taste that it does?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rawill View Post
            Question, does a finer grind mean a sweeter coffee, seems to my taste that it does?
            That depends entirely on what the song is before you go finer. If it's too coarse then you're probably underextracting so will be getting a sourer shot, grinding finer will reduce the excessive sourness and increase sweetness. However if you're not underextracting going finer will push you toward overextracting which increases the bitter and burnt flavours. There's a sweet spot inbetween too coarse and too fine that you can move around in, and generally the finer you go within that range you will get more of the sweetness, but some beans are different.

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            • #7
              It is a very intriguing process. I think I discovered that overfilling the basket, chocked my machine.

              It is a double basket I got from Alibaba, it has a "level" mark on it with 2 beside it.
              That means 22gms ground coffee, and it choked, and squirted water out between the seal and the P/F!
              I think, and according to another poster, probably more like 15/16 gms is enough for this little machine.

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              • #8
                Thanks guys.

                Got to say, I am stuggling to get as good a coffee out of the 5600, or the 4800c compared with the 6910.

                When I grind finer, it chokes, then when I back off it goes blond/watery too quickly.
                Iam stuggleing to find the sweet spot.
                I thought I knew what I was doing, but I used to use pressurized baskets with these machines, and as said above, have thrown them away.

                Krups 51mm single walled basket, bottomless P/F. (and an Alibaba/Ebay single walled double shot basket)
                Sunbeam EM 440 grinder.

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                • #9
                  Hi Folks.
                  Am new to this site. Have a Sunbeam Cafe Latte EM5600 which has been working fine until last weekend.
                  I've had it for possibly 6 years or so but not had a lot of use until the last 2 years when I finally mastered the art - I love my machine and make coffees usually in the weekends. Can't beat the smell of freshly ground coffee beans - yes I invested in a decent grinder 2 years ago.

                  When using it last weekend, it wouldn't pump water through the machine - absolutely nothing.

                  I cleaned everything down and tried again - nothing. Checked the manual and it said to try a de-scale mix with vinegar in water tank and pump through - tried several times over a 24 hour period - nothing. I thought the pump worked but was a different sound more-so a buzzing rather than its normal pumping sound. The last time it was really quiet. Not really sure what the problem is?

                  Next step - tried opening up unit. Husband undone most screws but there is one or two - looks like a pop-rivet or something but dont have the correct screwsriver or alllen key? So was not able to open unit. Anyone done this - is there a trick to opening it?
                  Would anyone have some instructions - as maybe missed something here?
                  Appreciate any help from anyone.
                  Many Thanks, Kath

                  P.S. The unit is in great condition so whatever is wrong it's on the inside. Anyone know where/who in NZ (south island) to contact please.
                  ​​​​​​​Thanks again.

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                  • #10
                    How did you get on? Just came back here by chance. I normally use at EM 6910 or EM 7000. But I do take the 5600 with me when we stay in Motels!

                    Happy to chat, EM 5600 was one of my early machines.
                    PM me if you want to chat.
                    We are in Invercargill,

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