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Re: Looking for a cheap old pro - Whats out there?
http://www.barazi.com.au/Newsflash/Bezzera-Pre-Loved-2nd-Hand-Machines/rancilio-2-group-used-manual-495
snap !!
sounds like a bargain
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Re: Looking for a cheap old pro - Whats out there?
Just went in to Barazi to buy a new group seal and saw a working used 2 group Rancilio & I think they want $500 for itOriginally posted by 020E070704040D141215610 link=1247835434/14#14 date=1248098876Hi all and thanks for all the advice.I have just won a Rancilio S24 on ebay.Assuming it is as described and makes it here in one piece I think it should suit my needs.
KK
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Re: Looking for a cheap old pro - Whats out there?
Ill find out how much it went for (if it sells) later.Originally posted by 777B727F7F761A0 link=1247835434/16#16 date=1248130257that machine at auction at Parramatta looks a lot better in their pics, still was in use short time ago. and nice and shiny and modern but reckon it will be 2k+?
There were only two people looking at it yesterday.
Im told it looks even better now than in the photo.
Someone bothered to give it a clean.
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Re: Looking for a cheap old pro - Whats out there?
if any one intends to go to Omaras, as a rough guide for every 100 items it takes about an hour.
so if you are looking at item 200 you don,t need to rush over at 10am i would get there about 12 (lunch)
or got to the inspection the days before for a look.......
have fun
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I went to the catering auction but only stayed till the first 1 (astoria) went for about $350 came up and a mazzer grinder , IMO the machines they had there yesterday were not worth standing around for and waiting for the home user.
they were all old external pump, old and dirty, one brasila 3grp may have been ok but about 5kw i think
if the pump alone were stuffed (and they looked sad) thats maybe $200 easy to add on to your repair bill. and most would need a full strip and test and piping, filters, + parts and stuff
i bid $100 on the astoria as the pump looked shiny.....
the mazzer (lugi??) went about $310 (inc commission of 15%) and it ran (i tested it) i bid but did not think it was really worth the $350+ i would have had to pay, plus new burrs?? etc
they had 1 boeam volumetric 1grp that might have been ok (auction number 5##) internal pump model, might still be sitting there?
i will go back for a look again but i reckon you can do just as good in egay or CS
that machine at auction at Parramatta looks a lot better in their pics, still was in use short time ago. and nice and shiny and modern but reckon it will be 2k+?
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Re: Looking for a cheap old pro - Whats out there?
The Brasilia is on auction tomorrow at Parramatta.
Looked like there might be a grinder as well from the pic.
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Re: Looking for a cheap old pro - Whats out there?
Hi all and thanks for all the advice. I have just won a Rancilio S24 on ebay. Assuming it is as described and makes it here in one piece I think it should suit my needs.
By the way. Did anyone go to the OMeras auction and if so how much did those machines go for?
Thanks again
CL
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I have been once.
Thats where I picked up the cups I use (had to buy 300 though ;D ) and also the bargain Gino Rossi grinder.
With machines and grinders one needs to know what they are looking for and willing to restore a machine if the price is right as they are not set up to show if they work.
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Re: Looking for a cheap old pro - Whats out there?
sorry TG your right, i was looking at the catering auctionOriginally posted by 1925382329283F2A22294D0 link=1247835434/10#10 date=1247992764Thats the catering auction.Originally posted by 5E525B56565F330 link=1247835434/9#9 date=1247981113that auction is on monday at Omaras
Tuesdays auction is the Marshalls Motors auction and the Brasilia is from their in-house cafe.
out of interest have you ever been to the omaras auction? I was going to go for a look tomorrow to check out price and machines
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Granted. If you spend $200-$300 and do the restoration yourself you would probably end up on or under budget. But this was not the question here. I think sometimes people get carried away and there is a big diffference between, "Im looking for a project" and, "I want to serve 100 coffees.Originally posted by 5855485B4E0B08093A0 link=1247835434/8#8 date=1247917951Maybe not too sorry if you purchase with the expectation and the willingness to do a restoration.
Again, from a "perspective that presumes you would like to offer a good experience for the patrons", I wouldnt set up a limo service and and then turn up with a clapped out, old, Datsun 180B.
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Re: Looking for a cheap old pro - Whats out there?
Thats the catering auction.Originally posted by 5E525B56565F330 link=1247835434/9#9 date=1247981113that auction is on monday at Omaras
Tuesdays auction is the Marshalls Motors auction and the Brasilia is from their in-house cafe.
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that auction is on monday at OmarasOriginally posted by 0B372A313B3A2D38303B5F0 link=1247835434/5#5 date=1247902028Theres a two group Brasilia in their auction this Tuesday coming.Originally posted by 063A273C363720353D36520 link=1247835434/3#3 date=1247871918Checkout sponsor OMaras - they deal in a lot of used commercials.
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Maybe not too sorry if you purchase with the expectation and the willingness to do a restoration.Originally posted by 19383333342E5D0 link=1247835434/7#7 date=1247911895Apart from what Javaphile has already mentioned, my experience of working at these types of events is that everyone wants their coffee at once, or over a relatively short period of time.Originally posted by 020E070704040D141215610 link=1247835434/0#0 date=1247835433Im wanting to do coffee (up to 100 lattes a day) for church and community events.
From a perspective that presumes you would like to offer a good experience for the patrons:
1) If you spend $1K on a tired old machine that cost $5k-$6k when it was new, its likely youll be sorry.
2) The minimum sized grinder that Id recommend for 100 coffees per day is the K10. Anything less will be too slow to meet demand and overheat itself and the beans. These are around twice your machine budget.
Perhaps that sounds a little harsh, but just the way I see it.
I found the mechanical side of the work replacing seals and gaskets is not such a big deal, and fairly inexpensive (assuming you dont need to replace an element or a pressurestat or an autofill board). I learnt a lot going through the process too.
A full dismantle and fixing the cosmetics, eg cleaning up, rust removal, beating panels into shape and painting is the bit that I found takes forever.
If looking at older 2 groups, perhaps consider something with minimal electronics, then youll have less heartache trying to fix it when something doesnt work.
Check out Evilbay, there is a 2 group Cimbali there now thats within your budget..... (Item number: 130319231318)
PS. Im not the seller and I know nothing about the condition of the machine......
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Apart from what Javaphile has already mentioned, my experience of working at these types of events is that everyone wants their coffee at once, or over a relatively short period of time.Originally posted by 020E070704040D141215610 link=1247835434/0#0 date=1247835433Im wanting to do coffee (up to 100 lattes a day) for church and community events.
From a perspective that presumes you would like to offer a good experience for the patrons:
1) If you spend $1K on a tired old machine that cost $5k-$6k when it was new, its likely youll be sorry.
2) The minimum sized grinder that Id recommend for 100 coffees per day is the K10. Anything less will be too slow to meet demand and overheat itself and the beans. These are around twice your machine budget.
Perhaps that sounds a little harsh, but just the way I see it.
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