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Re: Help me choose a new Machine!
Hmmmm, still thinking but have put the machine on hold temporarily.
Unexpected car expenses can knock the stuffing out of the bank account
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There are a number of us who have 2 groups as home units. They can be quite nice, if you have the space.Originally posted by 4D485D270 link=1305937858/23#23 date=1306721408But it is the size of the LaCimabali that has me a little concerned being an ex commercial 2 group unit,I love the look but it may seem a bit OTT for home use only.

Java "Still loving his Cimbali!" phile
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Thanks for your response,Ill give them a call.
But it is the size of the LaCimabali that has me a little concerned being an ex commercial 2 group unit,I love the look but it may seem a bit OTT for home use only.
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I have an Expobar Leva.
I decided against the extra bells and whistles of the Minore and that has suited me well for the almost 5 years Ive had it.
In all that time its only had normal servicing i.e. keeps on going.
Your mention of physical size I take is a personal perception thing as I dont find it overly large.
I just rang Di Bartoli to see if I could confirm or deny this for you.Originally posted by 424752280 link=1305937858/21#21 date=1306471638What bothers me is really the power consumption and is it true that they do not run of the normal 240volt plug?
Renzo hasnt seen one in the flesh yet but thinks the design will not allow both elements to come on together, hence keeping the current draw under 16 amps.
He said it should heat up one boiler first then the other, during initial warm up, from then on it will only need to switch on one element or the other for a short period of time in order to maintain temperature.
You can always give him a call yourself to get the explanation in his words instead of mine.
Any other sponsors seen one, that can confirm 100%?
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A friend has suggested the Expoibar MinoreIII (4)as have a few of you (thanks again)
He believes thats all Ill need,is there anything that Im missing out on with this machine?
But something keeps comming up in the back of my mind.
That is that I could get a used La Cimbala for much less.
Well apart from the physical size any one here see any negative reasons for grabbing one of these instead?
What bothers me is really the power consumption and is it true that they do not run of the normal 240volt plug?
Thanks in advance for any advice
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Hello lu.Originally posted by 4A53791F1F260 link=1305937858/19#19 date=1306302461The ECM Giotto is good and i think in ur price range.....
The ECM Giotto was discontinued about 5 years ago.
Current machines are manufactured by Rocket Espresso: Giotto Premium Plus and Evoluzione
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The ECM Giotto is good and i think in ur price range.....
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I got my Giotto Premium Plus from Chris and just this morning it was on for 3 hours before I made my coffee and it did not require a cooling flush.Originally posted by 49425A414646230 link=1305937858/13#13 date=1306238161
Thanks Chris; mine is the Premium Pluss so I figure it is my habbit of leaving the machine on for a couple of hours before I brew that lets it get a tad hot to begin with. A 20 second flush with an empty basket seems to bring it back in line again
Well I dont think it did, the water in the group wasnt boiling.....
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coming from someone who owns 3 single group commercial and semi commercial machines.... i would highly recommend going for something dual boiler (eg: expobar minore III). Youve got the price range to choose between dozens of offerings, why not get the best?
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Thanks for the plug cj,Originally posted by 57565C4F51544E3D0 link=1305937858/6#6 date=1306104192Check out: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1163933911/7#7
I have added another temptation to the list.... 8-)
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Originally posted by 686963706E6B71020 link=1305937858/6#6 date=1306104192DidCheck out: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1163933911/7#7Originally posted by 5154413B0 link=1305937858/0#0 date=1305937858Budget $3k-ish
Hmmm,juicy!
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Originally posted by 486B72617D040 link=1305937858/10#10 date=1306229635Not to put a dampener on your shopping process, but the grinder is usually seen as more important than the machine. You can make a good coffee with a good grinder and an ordinary machine, but youll struggle the other way around.Originally posted by 5D584D370 link=1305937858/0#0 date=1305937858Ill worry about suitable grinder once the brewing unit has been selected.
Steve
I 100% agree with you with regards with the grinder.
At the moment I do have an old Cunill on hand,but it will be upgraded when I do get a new machine.
A Kony is on the radar atm,but I will entertain any other recommendations with that aswell when the time comes.
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Thanks Chris; mine is the Premium Pluss so I figure it is my habbit of leaving the machine on for a couple of hours before I brew that lets it get a tad hot to begin with. A 20 second flush with an empty basket seems to bring it back in line againOriginally posted by 52676A6D59456960606363060 link=1305937858/12#12 date=1306237627Hi JayBee,Originally posted by 39322A313636530 link=1305937858/11#11 date=1306237236The Giotto is a great machine it has to be said. It needs a good long cooling pour if left for a long time, but after that delivers a great shot one after another for a dozen and more times.
The cooling flush issue on the Giotto Premium can be fixed with a thermostability upgrade. Any sponsor proficient with a Scace or Scace 2 should be able to make a big difference. The Giotto Premium Plus addressed this and a made a few other improvements over the Premium.
Chris
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Hi JayBee,Originally posted by 39322A313636530 link=1305937858/11#11 date=1306237236The Giotto is a great machine it has to be said. It needs a good long cooling pour if left for a long time, but after that delivers a great shot one after another for a dozen and more times.
The cooling flush issue on the Giotto Premium can be fixed with a thermostability upgrade. Any sponsor proficient with a Scace or Scace 2 should be able to make a big difference. The Giotto Premium Plus addressed this and a made a few other improvements over the Premium.
Chris
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