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  • #31
    Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

    Have you (and a mate at least ) tried to lift it yet!!!

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    • #32
      Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

      according to their website its 3800w and 11 litre boiler

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      • #33
        Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

        havent tried yet!!! Christ there is one on evil bay (new) from the US (220 volt ) and its 30 AMP!!! and 146 odd pounds!!!!!!!!!

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        • #34
          Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

          Originally posted by ozscott link=1181202738/30#32 date=1181302658
          havent tried yet!!! Christ there is one on evil bay (new) from the US (220 volt ) and its 30 AMP!!! and 146 odd pounds!!!!!!!!!

          Yep.... yours wouldnt really survive on a 15 amp run (Id recommend 20 Amp) and will weigh in at 60+ Kg...... (boiler empty).

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          • #35
            Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

            Id grab it Oz,

            Like Sparky and JB have already said, you can easily get your money back plus a bit more if its not going to work out at home, for what ever reasons, but at least you will have it right there and take your time considering all the options. Go for it mate, I would,

            Mal.

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            • #36
              Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

              Hi Ozscott,

              At that price and with a more or less known history, Id definitely jump on it. You may be pleasantly suprised at how little needs to be done.

              If it involved more work, a bloke that can work on boats and Land Rovers and still have his marbles should find it a doddle!

              The decision youd then have to make is whether you want a large, power hungry machine in your kitchen.

              Also, be aware that there are people here who have started out just as you have, and now know their way around the guts of a machine quite well. These same people are happy to share that info.....

              Go on, go for it,
              Phil

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              • #37
                Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                Thanks all....bought it $350, with 3 PFs and baskets, including a blind to flush, frother (unused) and 2 stainless jugs. I will collect it tomorrow. I guess that I will need to have Greg make me up a new tamper...are the baskets the same size as the EM6910 - they look bigger...?

                I will pumb it in and have an electrician stick in a dedicated line back to its own fuse and a 20 amp plug.

                I am hoping that the Rocky will be up to the machine...I think that the consensus on one thread a while back was that it might just do a commercial machine, but ithat a user would not get the most out of the machine with that grinder. I will experiment and see I guess. I dont really want to flog the Rocky and pay for a flasher commercial one if I can get away with it. I can stall my EM with the Rocky if I try and hopefully it will be consistent enough.

                Cheers for all your help everyone.

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                • #38
                  Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                  ozscott

                  Congratulations!!! You wont be sorry. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

                  The baskets will be the same size as the 6910 - 58mm - but could vary by a fraction of a mm (as do all baskets).... you existing tamper should be good enough - at least for now.

                  The rocky also should be up to the task.... unless you are wanting to set up a cafe.... in which case it wont be able to keep up (and probably wont like the constant grinding). Its not the best "kid on the block" for the job but again should be adequate.

                  Let us know how it all goes once up and operating..... you will love the espressos.... and as you already know- it has heaps of steaming power (just a tad more than the 6910 )

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                  • #39
                    Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                    Well done matey,....your now a member of the extreme machines club!
                    Sounds like a bargain....3 PFs and baskets would cost that much.

                    look foward to hearing more about it as you progress.
                    A picture would be nice too.

                    The rocky will be upto the job, its only limitation is that its stepped, but most agree the resolution of the steps is fine.

                    Will we see a 6910 up for sale soon?

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                    • #40
                      Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                      ...may do...its a very nice little machine in its own right (the 6910) and I dont want to part with it, but it might depend on what someone wants to pay for it...its 6 months old!

                      Cheers

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                      • #41
                        Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                        Looks pretty extreme, and at 670 wide --thats big alright --its up to you (and your wife) to decide whether it sits comfortably in the kitchen.

                        Think of the advantages when you have some people over: singles, doubles, espressos, lattes --- it will handle them all absolutely effortlessly, no recovery time needed.

                        Being a lover of commercial machines, I would definitely keep it over a prosumer model any day.

                        Its best to be on the safe side and recharge the water softener with salt.

                        To flush it, descale it professionally costs hundreds, but you can do it yourself. Properly, by dismantling every pipe to the boiler, removing the element etc...quite a fair bit of work...soaking everything in citric acid....rinsing and reassembling.

                        That can be a confronting exercise and if you are not confident, best not to do it. You can damage fittings or forget where they came from. They are soft copper and can be twisted and wrecked if excessive force is applied to stubborn fittings.

                        To simply flush out the stale water, if you have a hot water tap, open that and remove the boiler water, letting it refill. Make sure the autofill feature is working, check sight glass to keep water at required level. Otherwise, with some machines, theres a risk of leaving the element above water.

                        The water you are using to make coffee is not boiler water -- it is fresh water from the tap heated by the exchanger. That should and does taste OK.

                        But taste the boiler water: draw some out through the tap, let it cool and see if it has any offtastes.

                        Before plumbing in and cutting holes in the kitchen benches through which to feed pipes, Id use it on a tank. If you change your mind in a week or two, your bench is still intact.

                        (Ive had mine for months and have not yet been game to pull out the hole saw and cut the bench. The pipes go through an open cupboard door underneath)

                        Leaving it on all day? If you are home to use it, yes. But if its only a coffee in the morning and one at night, perhaps switch it on an hour beforehand. It will take about 7 minutes alone of constant heat to bring up the boiler to pressure. That is, no pressurestat cycling on/off for that period. Then the groups have to heat up etc.

                        The electricity bill for that seven minutes (at 12c per kwh) will be approx 4 cents.

                        Enjoy it, and if you dont mind the size, keep it and enjoy it permanently.

                        --Robusto


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                        • #42
                          Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                          Ive been thinking if a Giotto, Makin, Domus, Vibemme etc. would these machines make better coffee or would these big machines make better coffee? Just as side by side taste not on speed.

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                          • #43
                            Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                            Thanks Robusto ...will do the checks. I had to cut a whole in the bench top for a cord for the Microwave underneath (ie cord up through and to the power point directly above the bench) so I will use that hole.

                            I will get it home and have play once plumbed and wired in (which might take a few weeks) and then report back....

                            Cheers

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                            • #44
                              Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                              Originally posted by Coffee Kid link=1181202738/30#41 date=1181366758
                              Ive been thinking if a Giotto, Makin, Domus, Vibemme etc. would these machines make better coffee or would these big machines make better coffee? Just as side by side taste not on speed.
                              lol why save for a car when you can save for a coffee machine 8-)

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                              • #45
                                Re: FAEMA 2 GROUP - value at about $350

                                Does one machine make better coffee than another? Anything from a Silvia/Botticelli type (not familiar with the new Sunbeams so cant comment) up to extreme machines like Synessos can make fantastic coffees.
                                Whether you or I could make better coffees on a Giotto or a Faema two group would depend largely on our understanding of the quirks of that machine and our technique.
                                Probably more important are the amount you are prepared to spend, the amount of space you have, whether you want to plumb a machine in or not and whether you need to make 200+ coffees a day!
                                Having said that Ive had fantastic coffees from single boilers, small prosumer hxs and commercials.
                                Probably doesnt help!
                                Brett

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