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  • Juanjo
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    Originally posted by 427B71717D7E7D5E73666677120 link=1241388668/21#21 date=1242548204

    Even then, certainly there are many ways to get preinfusion.  It only means wetting the coffee at a lower pressure than 9 bar after all.

    yep, agree..

    and one more pro to my SanRemo ( :) is that when you enable the preinfusion it works ONLY with the two single button shots, so you can set the two double shots at the same amount as the single and have the option of having a shot with preinfusion and/or no preinfusion without having to touch anything in the machine..  gotta love that..

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  • PiccoloLatte
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    You get mains pressure TO the machine. But water cant get THROUGH the machine if there are valves that are shut, so you still need to have a machine that opens the valve(s) without engaging the pump to get that type of preinfusion.

    Even then, certainly there are many ways to get preinfusion. It only means wetting the coffee at a lower pressure than 9 bar after all.

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  • Martial_Monkey
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    Huh... It was my understanding that on a rotary if the pump wasnt running you get mains pressure through the machine (the pump boosts it from mains to 9 Bar/ whatever the set point is) - I could be wrong though.

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  • Cormac
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    Thanks for the info on the pre-infusion on this machine Juanjo Im still learning about pre-infusion myself. I read a really well thought out mod where they used a water hammer fitting from a hardware store to emulate the preinfusion system on an e61 group. They got a pre-infusion of 7 seconds with one config and 14 with another. I had suspected that this was a digitally controlled pre-infusion and its interesting to see how they have done it. Quick pulse from the pump then wait a bit they stsrt the shot. Makes sence. Vicroamer can you give an example of a machine that uses the mains water preassure to do the preinfusion as this system sounds really elegent, would like to see how they worked the plumming around the pump though. I would have thought they would need the water input line to split one feeding the pump the other with a one way valve to prevent a loss of pressure when the pump was running brfore rejoining again.

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  • Dimal
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    Originally posted by 49565C4D505E525A4D3F0 link=1241388668/17#17 date=1242300873
    wetting the coffee for 0.6 seconds and then stopping
    the subsequent brewing from starting for 1.2 seconds.
    OK Thanks. Thats how they go about it. I find this sort of stuff interesting. 8-)
    Lots of variables from one machine to another though that affect this "vr".... The timing cycle that works for the San Remo may not be optimal for other machines,

    Mal.

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  • vicroamer
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    wetting the coffee for 0.6 seconds and then stopping
    the subsequent brewing from starting for 1.2 seconds.
    OK Thanks. Thats how they go about it. I find this sort of stuff interesting. 8-)

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  • Juanjo
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    Vicroamer,

    this is what the manual says:

    "c) The CAPRI XLC SED electronics also offers the possibility of reproducing the pre-brewing effect by wetting the coffee for 0.6 seconds and then stopping
    the subsequent brewing from starting for 1.2 seconds. This option is only applicable for single shots of coffee."

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  • vicroamer
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    How does the preinfusion on this machine work Juanjo. Preinfusion on some plumbed in rotary pump machines uses the mains line water pressure before the pump kicks in.

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  • Juanjo
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    Im more interested in his water reservoir set up. How did you do it? What kind of water bottle did you use? [/QUOTE]


    David,

    fairly simple, its a ceramic bowl with some modification in the fitting, and a 1 gallon Spring water.


    for the fitting I use a rubber leg of a Livia90, shaped to fit in the bowl and a hole in the middle for the fitting


    straight to the rotary pump


    thats the set up


    it works great.!

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  • Wushoes
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    Originally posted by 07282123340B27282721232B232832460 link=1241388668/2#2 date=1241395784
    I still want ya Group Handles and Tamp stand and Tamp box..

    What Timber is that ?

    AM
    Im more interested in his water reservoir set up. How did you do it? What kind of water bottle did you use?

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  • Juanjo
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    Originally posted by 1F332E313D3F5C0 link=1241388668/11#11 date=1241982640
    The machine certainly ticks all the boxes in my book. Procon pump, hx, thermosyphon group heating, pre-infusion. Nice buy, you turned the pre-infusion on though? Can you explain the pre-infusion system on this machine? Like the water set up, was planning the same.
    RG,thanks,

    the pre-infusion on this machine can be enable or disable with few clicks and turns here and there.. fairly easy.

    I like it ON, it just wet the puck before going to full 9bars of pressure..

    thats from the manual:

    To enable pre-brewing
    With the appliance switched off, put the on/off switch (D) to position 1 and at the same time keep the button (M1) on the left-hand group pressed until the
    indicator light corresponding to the button (M5) remains lit; then release the button (M1). Now put the on/off switch (D) to position 0 and then to position
    2 in order to store the operation.
    To disable pre-brewing
    With the appliance switched off, put the on/off switch (D) to position 1 and at the same time keep the button (M2) on the left-hand group pressed until the
    indicator light corresponding to the button (M5) remains lit; then release the button (M2). Now switch the appliance off and then on again using the on/off
    switch (D) in order to store the operation.

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  • Cormac
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    The machine certainly ticks all the boxes in my book. Procon pump, hx, thermosyphon group heating, pre-infusion. Nice buy, you turned the pre-infusion on though? Can you explain the pre-infusion system on this machine? Like the water set up, was planning the same.

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  • A_M
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    Originally posted by 777F676D70140 link=1241388668/9#9 date=1241575962
    Got your reflection in that one juanjo  ;D
    Yea and NO Black Ebony.. I am disappointed:-)

    Took some pics here this morning, but have to wait till the wife gets home... They on her camera as mine just failed..

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  • cksyd
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    Got your reflection in that one juanjo ;D

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  • Juanjo
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    I set the SanRemos preinfusion ON today, here is a short video where you can see how it works on this machine..
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHQgNmRfZgI[/media]

    check bottom gauge

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