Re: Faema "Lambro" Restoration
Hey all
look at what i stubbled across, its pieros website...
turns out his a german bloke!!
http://NON-Sponsor-Link/Espresso.php?url=Shop.php
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Re: Faema "Lambro" Restoration
Hi Daniel
I think i figured out that Grieco Piero was using an online translator like google translate, i think he cant read or write in english. dont know if that helps at all.
;D Nice try.... the guy i bought my machines off doesnt have any others ;D
Cheers Craig
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Hey craigo
Yeah piero is so difficult to communicate with, he only responses in one or two words and you cannot ask multiple questions because he will only answer one.
Who was the guy that you bought off? Do you have his contact details.
Im searching for a faema uranina single group, piero has one but its fully restored, which is half the fun i think
Thanks for your response, has been most helpful
Daniel
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Hey Daniel,Originally posted by 3D222431293C23500 link=1286166653/20#20 date=1301263057how long do they generally need to warm up?
Who did you import it through? Was it a guy called piero?
Warm up times are quite quick for this size machine, about 15 minutes if you flush the head to warm it, and probably 30~45 minutes just letting it sit works best.
I have tried to communicate by email that fellow Grieco Piero, he has some STUNNING machines but i found him pretty expensive and his english is really bad that combined with a fiery italian personality meant it didnt work out.
Importing a machine has been a load of fun and i would cautiously say do it. But it does have its risks, your probably not going to make money on this venture, its break even at best.
I purchased my two machines from a fellow near Milano, through ebay. He was willing to box them up for transport then i used a shipping company call Air Sea Land http://www.airsealand.it/home_flash.html to transport to Australia.
My shipping costs were at the time of importing about Eur480 or around AUS$800, broken up as follows
- Handling: Eur 118,50
- Pick-up in Trieste: Eur 85,00
- Export customs clearance: Eur 55,00
- Airfreight MIL/SYD: Eur 3,00 x kg
- Fuel/Risk surcharge: Eur 0,80 x kg
Dont forget to add the costs of a customs broker /clearing house, yes you can do the paper work yourself, but its very complicated and time line driven. Also your going to be importing things customs people dont really like. (possibly Asbestos, mercury, lead, water inside parts)
Now you have to pay import duty, about 10%~15% to your total cost (which is the purchase + shipping cost) oh and the customs broker gets his fee.
Then the Resto begins. So loads of hassles, $, time, $, emails and you need some "tolerance for risk" but thats what you would expect or every body would be doing it.
So, i say go for it youll have a machine to treasure and an heirloom as well.
Or As i mentioned i imported two machine the Feama and a La Pavoni as seen here (pre restoration) http://s1102.photobucket.com/albums/...lia/?start=all The Feama is now finished and i will be keeping it but the La Pavoni will be finished soon and i will be selling it.
Cheers Craig.
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I wouldnt expect there to be much difference in warm-up times between a single and double group machine when all is said and done. The more groups a machine has the more numerous/bigger the heating element(s) are. I would be very surprised if these machines didnt follow the same pattern.
Java "Gotta love a great resto!" phile
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Hi craigo
Ive been tossing up about importing and restoring an old faema as well.
Im unsure about buying a twin group because im unsure how long they take for warm up because of their size? How about the single, how long do they generally need to warm up?
Who did you import it through? Was it a guy called piero?
Thanks Daniel
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Thanks. Nice spotting, in the background there is an Atomic, ECM Giotto, (not in view a Arrarex Caravel, La La Pavoni Brasilia, lots of Moka pots) The grinder is not too flash its an old Gaggia MDF, steped adjustment which is a bugger. must get around to replacing it some day, anyhow.
[smiley=cry.gif]Even better spotting my partner is a tea drinker, but i love her anyway. [smiley=rolleyes.gif]
Arr the shot.....absolutely great, took a little bit of dialing the grinder in and volume of the portafilter, but i think now i have it sorted.
More crema from my Giotto, but in this case i dont think more is better. It cant describe it real well, tastes kind of softer and richer, no bitterness.
Cheers.
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totally agree, very impressive!Originally posted by 2325283129253D440 link=1286166653/16#16 date=1300355100Fantastic looking restoration as well, a real credit to you.
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DittoOriginally posted by 3E38352C343820590 link=1286166653/16#16 date=1300355100Good little video! Fantastic looking restoration as well, a real credit to you.
So what is the Machine and Grinder in the background ?
PS. Ya partner did not seem to be overly interested ;D
PPS. So what did teh shot taste like ?
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Good little video! Fantastic looking restoration as well, a real credit to you.
I have just ordered my Izzo Pompeii so I am also looking forward to some lever god shots!
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Hey Yall
Well i took a few pics of some shots but they didnt really show the machine at its best.Originally posted by 100C1111060D170A0D02000C05050606630 link=1286166653/11#11 date=1299981121would love to see some shots? any pics?
So at the risk of bearing all i have made a little video, which is posted on Youtube, its about a 1:50 so not too long. Keep in mind this is the first video i have made and its not meant to be an instructional video just to show the type of shots the machine can produce.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltZbCIrXVwk
OK i hope you enjoy.
Cheers Craig
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Hi SorrentinaCoffee
The choice to add a new pressurestat was pretty easy for me as the machine didnt have any pressurestat mercury or otherwise when i bought it, just a really old safety valve. as you can see here.
http://s1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ardie4k/<br />
I could have got a smaller pressurestat but i liked the build quality and accuracy of the Sirai.
I am happy for people to argue robustly for or against adding modern features to an antique machine. its a personal thing, good to have an opinion though. For me feeling confident in the safety of the machine was important. I would argue against doing any modifications that are visible from the outside of the machine or change the character of a vintage machine.
The grouphead was a tough one, i spoke to a fellow Frank at Euroespresso, Parramatta Rd Sydney. who has restored more machines than i have seen. I wanted to strip the grouphead and re-plate it, but Franks option was the grouphead was in quite good condition and unless it was really bad you are best leaving it as is, so i went with the voice of experience and i am happy i did.
One thing i didnt do first off was replace the main spring, it seamed OK. but after pulling a few test shots i decided to replace it. The replacement spring was only $25 so a bit of a no brainer. The the first time i pulled the new spring it was evident the old one was a bit tired after 50 years of service. The improvement in the shots was evident as well.
OK hope that helps.
Cheers Craig
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Ive mounted my vac breaker on a tee from the safety valve outlet, with safety valve mounted horizontally, and vac breaker on top.Used a 3/8 tee, so youd need a 3/8 vac breaker too.Just fits under lid.
Ive had a play around with the thermosyphon adjuster, mainly to see if it affected group heat-up times as i use it a heatup and use machine, not left on all day.I have it set about 3/4 open at the moment.
Sorrentina coffee - faema lever groups very easy to re-build (unlike Gaggias!)
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Hey kofekitt
mounting the anti-vac valve the way you see wasnt my first choice, purely necessity to shoe-horn it in to tight space between the cabinet, but it does work fine.
This was my reasoning for the way its mounted.
If a anti-vac were mounted vertically it would remain in an open state until pressure from inside the boiler is greater than the outside pressure and it will close (and vice-versa). Mounted upside down, it remains in a closed state, and only opening when the pressure is greater outside the boiler than inside, thus still working as an anti-vacuum valve. the only draw back i thought there might be condensation (water) release when it opens. but i havent used the machine enough yet to see any evidence of this.
Hey have you had much of a chance to adjust the thermo-syphon system (the capped adjuster under the grouphead and behind the portafilter) i figure screwing in or out adjust the flow of water through the grouphead, but havent had the need to play with it yet.
Cheers. Craig
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I have one of these I am about to restore- though it is already in fine shape- all original and working. I am considering replacing the original mercury pressure stat- and adding some of the modern components that you have.
Did you restore the group head? and was that difficult?
would love to see some shots? any pics?
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